Pocketdivxencoder for H3xx?

framesaver · #1 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 04:23 AM

Came across this program while digging for software to put movies on the girlfriend's PPC:

http://divx.ppccool.com/

It already has templates built in for the Archos video players, was wondering had anyone tried it for the H3xx? From tinkering with it for a minute, the only hitch I can see is that it'll only take the mp3 audio up to 96kbps - Would that be an issue? If not, it'd probably be well handy for some of you - Indeed, you might want to mail the coder who could probably fairly easily add an iRiver template to the setup... Just a thought.

Tridion · #2 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 04:37 AM

This is already discussed in various threads here. Try using the search - its an amazing feature of forums

Seriously though, some have had success with PocketDivxEncoder but I havent. Then again I have only had a very quick go and encoding a video with it last night. Didnt bother spending any time trying to work out why it didnt work.

And no - PDE does not only go up to 96kbps mp3. Dont know why you think that.

framesaver · #3 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tridion

This is already discussed in various threads here. Try using the search - its an amazing feature of forums

Seriously though, some have had success with PocketDivxEncoder but I havent. Then again I have only had a very quick go and encoding a video with it last night. Didnt bother spending any time trying to work out why it didnt work.

And no - PDE does not only go up to 96kbps mp3. Dont know why you think that.

Hmmm - The search I did only produced one obscure reference to it. Ah well. Sure it has a thread of its own now. EDIT: Now I know why - Might have helped if I'd have spelt it right *d'oh*

And when I was fiddling with the settings, the max sound quality (6) was only giving 96kbps. Why I don't know.

ToRnAdO · #4 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 05:07 AM

Use the PDA option and you can select 128kbps sound, if you select any lower you will have sync problems. Anyway i find this program is crap, use virtual dub, its awsome, im creating full and widescreen whole films, in perfect aspect ratio, and sync.

Great!

Tridion · #5 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ToRnAdO

Use the PDA option and you can select 128kbps sound, if you select any lower you will have sync problems. Anyway i find this program is crap, use virtual dub, its awsome, im creating full and widescreen whole films, in perfect aspect ratio, and sync.

Great!

I agree. I would only use PocketDivxEncoder as a very last resort. Virtualdub is the way to go. PDE randomly crashes and can produce files with a/v sync problems.

The problem with these "one button press" solutions is that you loose the fliexibility, power and much better results of something like Virtualdub.

zygo · #6 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 08:19 AM

well, my 2 cents for what its worth.
ive played with it a bit (there are 2 versions of it ive found by the way, both newer than the one uve pictured, one a very recent bug fix/beta version which strangely does not produce as good a picture as the previous one, but there u go).

it appears 2 do the job on 4:3 quite well and much quicker than anything else ive tried and much easier.
these have been smaller, less than 10 min vobs
speed by the way for the movies has been around 90 mins to encode 86 min movie on 1gig machine
i believe it uses a linux developed encoder called mencoder

there are a few drawbacks. the major one being there is no way to add borders when u encode from 16:9 (that ive found so far) and when u try to encode them straight to 220 x 176 the iriver doesnt recognize them for whatever reason.

to get ur settings go to advanced and select just about anything other than smartphone. set frames to 10, tick xvid and mp3 output and nothing else....select quality 12 (248k) and i think its sound #6 (41000,128,stereo) then adjust the output size back to 220 x 176 and ur pretty much away...

only got one with out of sync audio and vdub did the same, have since discovered that in the original, the audio track started 80ms after the video??

havent had any random crashes with the newer version but had a few with the older when trying to crop..

hope this helps

ToRnAdO · #7 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 04:04 PM

speed by the way for the movies has been around 90 mins to encode 86 min movie on 1gig machine

LOL!, 85 min movie in 17 mins,

But then i have a 3.2gh xp

zygo · #8 (**permalink**) November 11th, 2004, 07:20 PM

just for referance tornado, same movie same machine same filtering etc. vdub takes approx 2hrs 45mins

and as im going from dvd that doesnt include the time to setup ".d2v" and ".avs" files if u need to use them

(i guess working on autocad simultaniously doesnt help either

)

anyway, for anyone interested, since my last post ive corresponded with the author of Pde and he is quite keen to take up the challenge of setting it up to include H3xx in its presets and work toward our specific requirements for codecs etc.(within reason i guess)

ive given him a couple of suggestions that we require(mentioned previously), are there any others that have used the program that thought of something that could be included?

please keep sugestions constructive, the program is/was never meant to replace vdub for difficult/specialty jobs but for quick conversions from dvd to "h3xx" this could be a handy tool especially if he rejigs it to suit our equipment.... and he'll give it to u for free.
he deserves every encouragement

hobbit65 · #9 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 03:34 AM

tornado
can you give me the settings to alter in virtual dub please im con fused lol

my_iriver · #10 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 03:39 AM

Check out this thread for a animated tutorial on creating videos in VirtualDub

H300 Video+VirtualDub animated Tutorial

hobbit65 · #11 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 04:09 AM

when i select the audio and compression then mpeg audio layer-3 my list only goes upto 56kbit/s 24000hz ?????? any help on virtualdub 1.6.1 any ideas why

my_iriver · #12 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 04:11 AM

Install the Radium mp3 codec.

my_iriver · #13 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 04:14 AM

iRiver is sooooo clever. They give us (limited) video support only to have the iRiver community spend the next year trying to figure how to use open source products distracting us from the firmware upgrades that have gapless. I can't think of no other feature that would keep people tied up trying to get right like their 220x176, 10fps, 128kb mp3 restriction... hehe... It would be like asking iPod users to upgrade their firmware... hehe...

hobbit65 · #14 (**permalink**) November 12th, 2004, 04:57 AM

thanks i river it did the trick now where can i put my pink floyd video for people to enjoy lol

Wildelnab · #15 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2004, 06:30 AM

Hi,

Now the RC10 version of PocketDivXEncoder should work on yuour iRivers HXX. The movie clips created are in XviD v1.02, 220*176 with automatic black borders added, MP3 sound (44KHz - 16bits - Stereo - 128kbps). The generated video is splitted in AVI segments which last less than 60 minutes.

I hope you will enjoy it ! It's available for download here

Bye !

Olivier

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kevpuk · #16 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2004, 07:39 AM

Nice one, Wildelnab !!

Have been using your RC9 variant for a while and am looking forward to this release - keep up the good work, you are a star !!

TedJ · #17 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2004, 08:20 PM

Nice work Wildelnab! Talk about service... The author comes into our humble forum and a week later his program is tuned to work with the H300's.

jaysee · #18 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2004, 09:21 PM

Thanks heaps for that! I've been having trouble with trying to get video will work- hopefully this will fix it.

mi3al · #19 (**permalink**) December 1st, 2004, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildelnab

Hi,

Now the RC10 version of PocketDivXEncoder should work on yuour iRivers HXX. The movie clips created are in XviD v1.02, 220*176 with automatic black borders added, MP3 sound (44KHz - 16bits - Stereo - 128kbps). The generated video is splitted in AVI segments which last less than 60 minutes.

I hope you will enjoy it ! It's available for download here

man you are kikin' my ass!!!

a few days ago version RC9 and now RC10 ...
you rulez bro

and what about "dissapearing" video data on PC after reencoding in PDE ?!?
do you remeber the thread ?!? if not look at this: problems with copying avi to H320 ... - your last post there

ohhh and i wonder why there is bitrate 360 only as a maximum value?!? is it possible to increase it to 500 ?!?
if i'm right the bigger bitrate the better quality ?!?

hmmm splitting video ... nice idea

BTW the longest video playing with no problem on my H320 was 109 minutes long

but sometimes i can't copy video on my H320 as you should remeber

so ... maybe splitting video automatically by PDE would be a solution... hopefully it helps

Wildelnab · #20 (**permalink**) December 1st, 2004, 02:18 AM

Thank you guys, I'm happy to help.

Quote:

and what about "dissapearing" video data on PC after reencoding in PDE ?!?

I don't know if that works... As I don't have an H3XX, you'll have to test for me !

Quote:

ohhh and i wonder why there is bitrate 360 only as a maximum value?!? is it possible to increase it to 500 ?!?

Yes, it's possible, but believe me, at 10fps - 220*176, a value of "360" for bitrate is far enough for the video quality !

Bye !

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mi3al · #21 (**permalink**) December 1st, 2004, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildelnab

I don't know if that works... As I don't have an H3XX, you'll have to test for me !

hie hie you don't need H3xx to check this out

your PC is enough - i have written about "dissapearing" video only on PC

but i'll test it

i hope in RC10 there wouldn't be any errors like in PDE RC8 durin reencoding

but on the other hand if RC9 work well why RC10 should be worse ?!?

Quote:

Yes, it's possible, but believe me, at 10fps - 220*176, a value of "360" for bitrate is far enough for the video quality !

so the higher bitrate the better quality?!?
i've read (i don't remember where) that 250 is enough for widescreen video...
and for "normal" suggested is 500 ...
but if it's true and why such values ... no idea ...

TedJ · #22 (**permalink**) December 1st, 2004, 02:38 AM

I've tried upping the bitrate to 450-500 kb/s and while it makes no appreciable difference to the quality of the picture it did cause frequent pauses in the vision as the cpu was overwhelmed...