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Old December 4th, 2007, 02:52 AM
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Arrow Some UI & Playlist questions to make my Rockbox experience better

I have some rockbox questions for you all...

*If I'm listening to a playlist, how do I browse and jump to a song further down the list?



*Is there a way I have recursively shuffle a directory tree? For example, if I some albums sorted as:

\nirvana\misc tracks\
\nirvana\Nevermind\
\nirvana\In Utero\

I want to browse to \nirvana and listen to everything (recursively) in this folder shuffled. How ? This would be my dream feature.



*Holding down the AB button gets me to a screen that allows me to turn shuffle on and off. Now in all of the other rockbox menus, the LEFT button on the 4way pad takes you back to the previous screen, but in this window, you have to press the Stop button to go back, yet the UP button on the 4way pad isn't used in this menu! Amazing. Why not keep the UI uniform and make UP be shuffle and LEFT take you back a screen like the rest of the option windows?


*In the iriver firmware, I can easily shuffle all the tracks on the player with only 1-2 key presses tops. Lets say it skips to a a track album, but I want to listen to another track on the same album. Of course all the tracks on this album are in the same directory, so I press NAVI, scroll up or down a couple of tracks, press NAVI again and listen to the song I wanted to hear. When I push Next Track, it will shuffle to some other random song on my player. This is a great way to listen to music while on the go. How can I do this on rockbox? It seems that there is no easy way to pull this off. Everything but the bare basic rockbox features require so many key presses and so much concentration that it's impossible to use while jogging or biking.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 01:38 PM
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*If I'm listening to a playlist, how do I browse and jump to a song further down the list?
Hold NAVI, scroll down to Playlist, then View Current Playlist. You can then scroll up/down, and select a song to play using NAVI.


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*Is there a way I have recursively shuffle a directory tree? For example, if I some albums sorted as:

\nirvana\misc tracks\
\nirvana\Nevermind\
\nirvana\In Utero\

I want to browse to \nirvana and listen to everything (recursively) in this folder shuffled. How ? This would be my dream feature.
You would need to make a playlist with those songs in it (easy enough to do, on computer, or the H3xx), and then play that on shuffle.


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*Holding down the AB button gets me to a screen that allows me to turn shuffle on and off. Now in all of the other rockbox menus, the LEFT button on the 4way pad takes you back to the previous screen, but in this window, you have to press the Stop button to go back, yet the UP button on the 4way pad isn't used in this menu! Amazing. Why not keep the UI uniform and make UP be shuffle and LEFT take you back a screen like the rest of the option windows?
True, bit of a design problem, however since it is open source, simply set up a development environment (Rockbox page will have more information), change the code to what you want, then recompile and load onto your H3xx.


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*In the iriver firmware, I can easily shuffle all the tracks on the player with only 1-2 key presses tops. Lets say it skips to a a track album, but I want to listen to another track on the same album. Of course all the tracks on this album are in the same directory, so I press NAVI, scroll up or down a couple of tracks, press NAVI again and listen to the song I wanted to hear. When I push Next Track, it will shuffle to some other random song on my player. This is a great way to listen to music while on the go. How can I do this on rockbox? It seems that there is no easy way to pull this off. Everything but the bare basic rockbox features require so many key presses and so much concentration that it's impossible to use while jogging or biking.
Since Rockbox uses playlists as the method of play, you are always going to have to use this as a basis. Now, the standard firmware makes a huge playlist when you turn it on (one of the reasons for such a long bootup), so you can skip songs easily over the whole music library.

In Rockbox, you need to a) set Insert Directories Recursively on b) head to the folder of your music (ie, if you had it in root:/MUSIC, then simply have your cursor over MUSIC), c) hold NAVI, then insert into playlist. This will insert all songs into a playlist, from there you can use the playlist view function to skip to certain songs. However, this still doesn't solve the 'select one song from file tree and then keep skipping' since when you do that, Rockbox creates a new playlist.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 05:47 PM
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*Holding down the AB button gets me to a screen that allows me to turn shuffle on and off. Now in all of the other rockbox menus, the LEFT button on the 4way pad takes you back to the previous screen, but in this window, you have to press the Stop button to go back, yet the UP button on the 4way pad isn't used in this menu! Amazing. Why not keep the UI uniform and make UP be shuffle and LEFT take you back a screen like the rest of the option windows?
Great point. I'd like to see that fixed.


Also, i noticed a lot of your problems which arrow explained for you could be done with less button presses if you make the record button your default button for inserting songs or directories into playlists. When pressed in the WPS it also allows you to view the current playlist in a single button press.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 08:57 PM
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Schwab - I thought the option to change the functionality of the default button was only in various custom builds. If it's also in the official build, where can I find it?
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Old December 4th, 2007, 11:41 PM
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Schwab - I thought the option to change the functionality of the default button was only in various custom builds. If it's also in the official build, where can I find it?
I don't believe it is incorporated yet, however last I was updated on what is in/what isn't in was October last year.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:01 PM
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Schwab - I thought the option to change the functionality of the default button was only in various custom builds. If it's also in the official build, where can I find it?
oops, yeah, i only used the custom builds for reasons just like this. give darky's build a try.
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Old December 11th, 2007, 04:55 AM
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*Is there a way I have recursively shuffle a directory tree? For example, if I some albums sorted as:

\nirvana\misc tracks\
\nirvana\Nevermind\
\nirvana\In Utero\

I want to browse to \nirvana and listen to everything (recursively) in this folder shuffled. How ? This would be my dream feature.
Have you looked in the manual? There is a small feature called Recursively Insert Directories. You'll find it under "General settings". Set this option to ON or ASK, hold the NAVI-button on your nirvana folder, choose "Playlist", then "Insert shuffled" and voila!

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