How do you rate songs in the new tagcache database?

raganichu · #1 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2006, 12:47 PM

Hi,

I was wondering how to rate songs in the new tagcache database. Also, What is for the runtime data gathering?

thanks,

Ricardo

Mike · #2 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2006, 03:20 PM

I don't believe ratings yet are possible but that will be coming up, I've heard. The runtime system also is a "leftover" from the earlier system, that hopefully also will be utilized in some fashion.

raganichu · #3 (**permalink**) August 16th, 2006, 03:44 PM

According to this,

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Originally Posted by Mike

I don't believe ratings yet are possible but that will be coming up, I've heard.

The browser menus in the id3 database mode named: Most played tracks, Best tracks and Search by score, are not working?

thanks in advance,

Ricardo

bascule · #4 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by raganichu

The browser menus in the id3 database mode named: Most played tracks, Best tracks and Search by score, are not working?

thanks in advance,

Ricardo

Yes they are.

If you have the option General Settings>File View>Tag Cache>Gather Runtime Data (experimental) set to on, Rockbox calculates an autoscore based on the average length of time a track has been listened to.

So if you listened to a track right through (100%) then listened again, but skipped to the next track at 90% through, the track would have an autoscore of 95.

These stats are available through the ID3 file view options Best tracks and List played tracks.

Best tracks lists tracks that have been played twice or more and have an autoscore of greater than 60.
List played tracks lists all tracks ever played with autoscore and playcount displayed.

Also, the runtime data is not written after every song, only when the disk spins up next, so you'll need to listen/skip through a few songs until the disk spins up, then check those Best tracks and List Played options again...

shlnl · #5 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 07:42 AM

I have a problem with tagcache and I've searched and couldn't find an answer so I thought I might as well ask it here instead of starting a new thread...

I figured it would be nice to check out the tagcache thing, so I went to the tagcache menu and to "initialise now", it started running in the background, and when done it turned off... When relaunching and trying to select ANY option in the ID3 database view I get the message that starts with "Sear...". On top of that there is the error message which says "tagcache not ready". I can't view artists, tracks or anything else... Searching gives the same message after entering a search....

What am I doing wrong. I've tried initialising twice, auto update is on, and I've also tried "update now". Also, the tagcache is loaded into the RAM.

I'm using the latest norbu build.

Can anyone help me here?

Stefan

3.14159265 · #6 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 09:05 AM

i had the same problem last time i tryed to use tagcache. not tried again recentaly

Antisumo · #7 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 09:11 AM

I keep trying to get tagcache to work, and have searched around the forums for a solution, but none of them have worked for me.... I'll keep trying though coz the runtime thing storing your most played songs sounds cool!

Mike · #8 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 10:21 AM

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The browser menus in the id3 database mode named: Most played tracks, Best tracks and Search by score, are not working?

I was referring to individual song ratings done by the user, as not yet being available under TagCache.

As to the TagCache not ready messages, that has occurred to me a few times--I don't recall a pattern to it, but it has not recurred. I may have updated to a newer Rockbox build; or I think I just turned the player off and then on again 1 or more times, and had it initialize the db, and left the player alone while it did so for 10 minutes or so--the problem may have been when it was trying to build the db and I played music in the meanwhile (altho this is not supposed to affect anything).

juanpa74 · #9 (**permalink**) August 17th, 2006, 07:28 PM

I have used ratings in the past (4 months ago) and it worked perfectly. I haven't tried with the latest builds.

Mike · #10 (**permalink**) August 18th, 2006, 10:24 AM

Was that with TagCache (the "new" db system) or the earlier system?

juanpa74 · #11 (**permalink**) August 18th, 2006, 01:35 PM

Can't remember, sorry.

Mike · #12 (**permalink**) August 18th, 2006, 03:42 PM

My hunch is that you were using the earlier system--as I said, I don't believe individual song ratings are possible with TagCache yet. But someone will correct me if they are.

Mad_Big_Sausage · #13 (**permalink**) August 18th, 2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

My hunch is that you were using the earlier system--as I said, I don't believe individual song ratings are possible with TagCache yet. But someone will correct me if they are.

4 months ago was the previous system.
Individual ratings are currently only possible through the autorating described above.

Remember rb is a work in progress. If you want to speed up the process lend a hand. You can code or report bugs if you can't code. Just remember to follow the proper steps.

And for the folks with the tagcache errors try manually updating the cache. Wait till the HDD activity stops, reset and try again.
If that doesn't work get a new daily build and try again.
If that doesn't work report it if it hasn't already been.

3.14159265 · #14 (**permalink**) August 19th, 2006, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad_Big_Sausage

And for the folks with the tagcache errors try manually updating the cache. Wait till the HDD activity stops, reset and try again.

I wated 3hours and still didnt stop

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Originally Posted by Mad_Big_Sausage

If that doesn't work get a new daily build and try again.

I update frequentaly

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Originally Posted by Mad_Big_Sausage

If that doesn't work report it if it hasn't already been.

not sure i can prvide any more info than "It don't work!" whitch isn't very good for fixing.

I think i will have another go at playing with it...

Mad_Big_Sausage · #15 (**permalink**) August 19th, 2006, 07:02 AM

Do you know about the embedded album art bug?

I've never had embedded album art so I havn't been following its progress but I believe having any caused problems in a few places.

3.14159265 · #16 (**permalink**) August 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM

well i had a look at the debug menu and found it gets stuck at 30% (file 2827) so now i need to find some way of working out which file it is

Prinssi · #17 (**permalink**) August 19th, 2006, 01:57 PM

the embedded album art bug was fixed a while (months?) ago. at least for me the tag cache works well, and i have embedded album art as well as cover.bmp's. using latest Norbu build.

Mad_Big_Sausage · #18 (**permalink**) August 19th, 2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 3.14159265

well i had a look at the debug menu and found it gets stuck at 30% (file 2827) so now i need to find some way of working out which file it is

Dunno if the stock will follow with rb but find file 2827 from the iRiver fw (top left when playing) to see what it is and if there's a prob....

Stabs in the dark....

3.14159265 · #19 (**permalink**) August 20th, 2006, 01:17 AM

tried that, and it lead to the middle of an album, then i remembered that Iriver looks at WMA songs and i think RB will look for AAC. I dont have alot of eather but it would be enough to through it off. that is if RB follows the same search method as iriver (which I dout)

i managed to get the tagcash to load by turning the player off just before It reached the problem track but i still havent found the problem track

Antisumo · #20 (**permalink**) August 20th, 2006, 10:45 AM

I had a problem with embedded album art, my DAP would freeze at file 325 but when I used a program to get rid off it all (which did kind of work...) initializing the tag cache would go all the way to the end and do nothing apart from say its 'Commiting tagcache (1/11)' when it boots up and then still not work??? Has anyone else had this problem, I actually created a post to ask but no-one knew what was going on! Commiting tagcache

grantman54 · #21 (**permalink**) October 4th, 2006, 05:20 PM

anyone want to specify what exactly u do to set the automatic rating and how do you view the ratings?
Im using the DS blue theme will the rating appear as the stars if I do this correctly?

grantman54 · #22 (**permalink**) October 8th, 2006, 12:42 PM

please respond so i dont have to start a new post... : )

grantman54 · #23 (**permalink**) October 9th, 2006, 07:14 PM

Hello? someone please answer my question!