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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:19 PM
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Player won't turn on from play button

After flashing the iriver with the rockbox bootloader, it no longer turns on by using the play button. I have to fool around with the reset switch to even get it to turn on. Once turned on, it functions well enough for how far along rockbox is in development, but i don't like the idea of having to carry a pointy object around with me at all times just so I can turn on my mp3 player. I don't have this problem when I revert back to the normal 1.29k firmware, so it's not like Rockbox broke my player or anything, but it's certainly a deterrent to using it.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:30 PM
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What happens when you press the play button?

What happens if you press and hold the record button and then press the play button?
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Old April 17th, 2006, 10:50 AM
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Nothing happens. To turn the player on, I have to push in the reset button and then hit play, and then release the reset button.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:27 AM
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Reflash a clean iRiver firmware then flash a new rockbox patched version and unzip a new build to the root of your player.

Since you can turn on the player with reset and play then your play button isn't broken so it's prob sofware.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 03:23 PM
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I've tried flipping the firmwares a bunch (tried a couple different flavors), but it always seems to be a recurring problem. I guess I'll wait till version 3 and see how that one works.
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Old April 19th, 2006, 12:27 AM
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Yeah, but I'd be more thorough about it and try sausage's suggestion to reflash with clean iRiver firmware and then flash back to RB with a freshly modded .hex file... The startup functions are controlled by the bootloader, not the version you have on your drive.

C

EDIT: Or is that what you did? I thought you meant you tried several builds, but I re-read your post and saw you said several firmwares... sorry if my post is moot.
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Old April 19th, 2006, 02:25 AM
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i would say that your best bet would be to flash a clean version of 1.29k and install the latest version of the rockbox bootloader using 1.29k other than that i dont really know what else you could do. sounds to me like it's a problem with the rockbox bootloader
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Old April 22nd, 2006, 05:23 PM
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Don't forget to clear your settings (hold Record-button on startup)!

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Old March 16th, 2007, 06:09 PM
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so here it is, many moons later, and im having the same problem the original poster had. i flashed to a clean 1.29k firmware, then i patched the firmware and flashed it again. ive tried the newest norbusan build AND the one that i was using successfully on my last h320 (RIP). i update the firmware and im able to turn on to rockbox. i clear the settings, then set my settings up, turn the player off, then i cant turn the player back on unless im holding the reset button and hit the play button.
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Old March 16th, 2007, 09:14 PM
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this is highly inconvenient.
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Old March 16th, 2007, 09:19 PM
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Have you tried flashing a clean, un-RockBox-ed firmware and seeing if it starts up ok?
(As was suggested to the original poster)

edit: have you recently changed the build you're running?
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Old March 16th, 2007, 11:04 PM
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yeah i did the clean unboxd firmware and it worked fine. this is the 1st time this player has ever seen rockbox. ive also used 2 different bootloaders (one directly off of rockbox and the one i used for my previously boxd h320). it seems if i boot into the iriver fw (resetting of course) then shut the player off, i can start into rockbox just fine. when i shut the player off after a rockbox session, im unable to turn it on. the charger doesnt turn it on or the usb either.

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Old March 19th, 2007, 03:57 PM
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anyone know of another source for a bootloader? anything?

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Old March 19th, 2007, 06:32 PM
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i tried a FW patcher right off of the rockbox site and still the same thing happens. i notice that before i install the rockbox FW and i turn the player on, it does the usual thing where it turns on and then shuts off, but when i plug in the charger or usb, i then have to do the reset thing.

now after i install rockbox, it turns on (without the charger/usb) and when i turn it off, it gets hung on the "shutting down" text and then i have to reset it and from that point on, i have to reset it anytime i turn the player on.

seriously what the f*** is wrong with this thing?
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Old March 20th, 2007, 11:15 PM
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somebody please. i cant have a sharp pointy piece on me at all times.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 01:50 AM
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carry a paperclip in your wallet or switch back to original firmware until there's a new bootloader.
sorry i can't be of more help
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Old March 21st, 2007, 02:17 AM
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I know that because these players are not even being produced (much less very much supporeted) by iRiver this may be an irrelevant point... but, maybe newer versions of the player (or older) were manufactured in some way that affects the normal operation of Rockbox. Out of curiosity, when and where did you get your h300?
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Old March 21st, 2007, 05:30 PM
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To properly troubleshoot this issue you need to remove all the variables in the equation to determine what's at fault.

In this case you've already tried re-flashing the firmware, now try this:
  1. Charge your iriver battery to full and leave the player plugged in
  2. Copy everything off your iriver drive
  3. Run Scan Disk from windows on the drive (can take up to an hour)
  4. Flash the firmware with an unpached original version (1.29 or above)
  5. Format your iriver drive with through the firmware (in settings)
  6. Reboot the player and connect to a PC to make sure everything is ok so far
  7. Flash the firmware with a bootloader modded version
  8. Reboot to test before putting anything further on the player (even the rockbox files)
If the play button starts the player as normal (it will boot into the original firmware without rockbox of course) then you can rule out the bootloader as the cause of the issue.

If you're still having problems after all of the above, we must assume that your player is somehow different to the vast majority; either there is a fault with the hardware that is only evident with the bootloader or as MustNotSleep said; the player may be a later revision that the bootloader doesn't yet support. Personally I think the former is more likely as so far you are the only H300 owner so far to report this issue.

From what you describe it sounds like the player is not shutting down properly rather than not starting up properly. Let us know how you go with the above.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 11:42 PM
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ive done all that was listed. i got the player from a friend who, during the time it was being RMA'd, got himself an ipod. he said, here u go, enjoy. not sure when he got it or even what it was RMA'd for. as for now, im having issues with the battery as well so ill be performing some battery surgery just as soon as my new one comes. i doubt this will improve anything other than my battery problems.
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 12:08 AM
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So what was the result of booting with the bootloader installed but with a formatted drive? (without rockbox files)
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 12:51 AM
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it turned on just fine without RB files and a freshly formatted player. that is, until i plugged in the charger. 1st thing is the player didnt turn on like it should when its plugged in. wouldnt turn on when i pressed play. when i unplugged it, still no on till i did a hard reset. its starting to look like a problem with the player more than anything else.
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 04:17 PM
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That's too bad, I think you could be right.

The good news is that there are plenty of people on the forums that would buy your player and accessories for parts if you don't think you can live with the issue.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:05 AM
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anyone know where to find a 5g 60gb ipod? what a sad statement.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:27 AM
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You have to at least take it apart first and really look at it. Make sure the battery isn't shot, that can cause some crazy symptoms... and would fit with charging starting it all off. Plus, have you seen what happens when you charge only with usb? Maybe the charger sucks and is the cause....

I have to know the answer. There has to be an end.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 12:27 PM
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well im going to perform some battery surgery right now so we'll see what happens. 2200mah here i come.
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