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[Saidas]

Would someone please tell me specifically why Rockbox won't be able to work with WMP? All I've been able to find is that it is a closed source, but I don't know exactly what that means and what the ramifications are. My best friend is a software and hardware engineer at Microsoft and if there is anything he could do to assist I will ask him, but I need to know exactly what to ask him.

[TCK]

I assume you mean WMA rather than WMP. Basically, the WMA format is closed, therefore there are no free encoders available. It's nothing you can do, unless your best friend is Bill Gates :P

[Mitaine]

The WMA format is worse than closed source : it's proprietary, meaning that not only is the format not publicly described by microsoft, but you have to pay them money to use the format in any way (and even then you get a restrictive license preventing you from disclosing details about the format, and so on).
Reverse-engineering is then out of the question (illegal in addition to freaking hard).
Politically, if a microsoft employee had the power to give Rockbox a WMA license, it STILL would be impossible to integrate because MS employees can NOT work on free / GPL projects by contract.
Only hope would be to add hooks between iRiver's firmware and Rockbox, to make the original firmware play the files as a "black box". I don't know if that is even possible - I doubt it.

[zomer]

A brief question, would it be possible for the rockbox firmware to get a way faster startup time like the ipoo, creative zen e.a.?

[Lewis]

Thats already there. 3 seconds its quoted at.

[zezayer]

Sorry random Q but does anyone know how rbx is getting along with getting the radio to play on the iriver.

Thnx.

[belly917]

Originally Posted by zezayer

Sorry random Q but does anyone know how rbx is getting along with getting the radio to play on the iriver.

Thnx.

Good question. I have been following rockbox's progress pretty closely, and it had also occured to me this weekend that I have yet to see any mention of the FM radio. There's no mention of it in the wiki. (if I missed it.. hey.. I'm only human)

Rockbox developers.. has this been discussed?


While we're on the radio, I have 2 requests:

• Ability to label stations so that the radio's wps will show
  
  102.1
  the edge
• can the presets be saved to a config file so that you can reload them quickly. For those of us who travel frequently between different cities.. it would be nice to be able to load presets for city#1 and then city#2

[hypnotic monkey]

Originally Posted by belly917

Good question. I have been following rockbox's progress pretty closely, and it had also occured to me this weekend that I have yet to see any mention of the FM radio. There's no mention of it in the wiki. (if I missed it.. hey.. I'm only human)

Rockbox developers.. has this been discussed?


While we're on the radio, I have 2 requests:

• Ability to label stations so that the radio's wps will show
  
  102.1
  the edge
• can the presets be saved to a config file so that you can reload them quickly. For those of us who travel frequently between different cities.. it would be nice to be able to load presets for city#1 and then city#2

good point there, can anyone from rockbox validate that there will be radio in the firmware??? as this is obviously very important!!!!

[carnelain]

I think I read on the site somewhere that the will look in to it. Correct me if I am wrong.

That idea is great. My college is 20 km from where I live but the radio is totally screwed their. Would it be possible to let the frequency slide along when we travel??? That would be awesome.

I think it can't be done because it would have been in a lot of cars already if it could.

But the radio's in cars all have that displaying system. I don't know what it's called. Could a H1xx receive it???

Now I flipping, right?

Well those guys r doing an amazing job. I'll stop bothering them with my stupid ideas.

edit:
I surfed around rockbox.org for a minute and found this:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/vie...tureComparison

It says fm radio/recorder will be on rockbox!!!

[belly917]

Originally Posted by carnelain

That idea is great. My college is 20 km from where I live but the radio is totally screwed their. Would it be possible to let the frequency slide along when we travel??? That would be awesome.

I think it can't be done because it would have been in a lot of cars already if it could.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Slidding frequency??

Originally Posted by carnelain

But the radio's in cars all have that displaying system. I don't know what it's called. Could a H1xx receive it???

You're talking about the Radio Data System. My suggestion was to allow a user to input the text him/herself that would be displayed (shouldn't be too hard to implement), but your comment about using RDS is quite interesting.

As far as implementing RDS, one of the developers would have to let us know if there are limitations of the FM hardware, or if the RDS is documented so that code can be written, or better yet, if anyone is willing to code it.

[carnelain]

With the frequency sliding along I mean when your listening in the train the frequency is different every 10 minutes. The original firmware can scan for a frequency (when you search a station). Lets say it would do that al the time then you would have to set frequencies in every city. But it's though cause you have to set it before you start traveling.

[linus]

Yes, of course Rockbox will support the FM radio. It does for all the other platforms, so I can't see why it wouldn't do it on the iRiver. We already have code for the FM radio chip on the iRiver, as it is the same chip as on the Archos Ondio models.

RDS is not possible, since it requires RDS decoding hardware, which isn't present on the H-series hardware.

[zezayer]

Kool

Thanks Linus

[Lewis]

As RDS/EON isn't possible would it be possible to name the presets instead?

[linus]

Currently, Rockbox supports up to 32 named preset stations. It has no support for different "sets" of presets, but that can of course be changed.

[NPswimdude500]

32 named presets. jeez, it gets better every day!

as usual, keep up the good work!

[JetroPag]

Just a thought.. Will Rockbox have support for for example Japanese characters? I have a lot of mp3s which have either japanese filenames or/and id3-tags. I really hope this will be possible since i don't really want to rename all my japanese songs.

[NPswimdude500]

Originally Posted by JetroPag

Just a thought.. Will Rockbox have support for for example Japanese characters? I have a lot of mp3s which have either japanese filenames or/and id3-tags. I really hope this will be possible since i don't really want to rename all my japanese songs.

It should, with any luck!

[Tang]

Originally Posted by JetroPag

Just a thought.. Will Rockbox have support for for example Japanese characters? I have a lot of mp3s which have either japanese filenames or/and id3-tags. I really hope this will be possible since i don't really want to rename all my japanese songs.

i read someone was working on UNICODE support...

PS: i like your associed image, is there anyway to get it in big size?

[JetroPag]

Originally Posted by Tang

PS: i like your associed image, is there anyway to get it in big size?

Hehe, it's a 3D model. Here's a bigger version: http://www.deviantart.com/view/14617279/

[muesli]

excellent mate

[XavierGr]

Originally Posted by JetroPag

Hehe, it's a 3D model. Here's a bigger version: http://www.deviantart.com/view/14617279/

What do you mean 3D model it looks quite real to me!!

Seriously though, do you mean that you made it on your PC?