Sound settings

[wafflesomd]

So it is me, or do the sound settings Bass/Treble, just seem to raise the volume.

It's like they dont even affect the tone and quality of the sound.

[Angryman_H10]

hmm, yes i also noticed that

[BiGRED84]

ya i have also noticed that whenever i raise the bass or treble it usually just causes the songs to start clipping

[barrywardell]

The audio codec hardware on the H10 doesn't support bass/treble control, which explains why the setting doesn't work for you. Maybe the option should be removed, or set to use the software eq?

[wafflesomd]

Well that sucks.

Cuase it really doesnt sound that great with the 5 band EQ, you can only do so much.

[BiGRED84]

is there anyway to set up preset equalizer settings like on the iriver firmware when the cpu is optimized?

[wafflesomd]

Originally Posted by delorean90

is there anyway to set up preset equalizer settings like on the iriver firmware when the cpu is optimized?

I hope your not asking me.

But I did previously own an h120, and it sounded amazing. Unfortuneatly my parents didnt want to buy a refurn iriver, since they are discontinued.

I'm sure that it will eventually sound much much better once rockbox gets further into dev. I'm just hoping that they actually get some updates that matter, as opposed to "solitaire in color!"....

[Llorean]

Seriously, stop complaining about updates you don't like. Not everyone can work on every hardware, for example many many devs don't own players with PortalPlayer chipsets and so can't do anything that would be H10 specific. Other people, like those who fix up the plugins, often don't have the kind of knowledge in the right area to make improvements to say the audio playback engine anyway. It doesn't hurt *anything* that other less important bugs get fixed by them. So those updates matter to, since they make things better for people who use those functions, and don't cost those who don't.



On a different note, you can already save EQ presets (or load previously saved ones) with Rockbox. So I'm not quite sure what you're asking for about the EQ presets....

[BiGRED84]

is the h10 able to use the eq yet? and what i mean by eq presets is a list of eq presets for different genres that either come with rockbox or that could be downloaded seperatly in a .zip like fonts

[andrewmel]

Yes, but you will have to make your own.


Set up the EQ how you want it, then save a theme. You can then edit the theme (it will be a .cfg file, edit in Notepad) so that there are only the lines in it that relate to the EQ. Now save the theme with an EQ name, and put it in the Themes folder. To change presets (you can make a bunch of them) just use the Browse Themes option and load your presets.

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[Llorean]

Or you could use the option to load EQs instead of doing it through the Theme menu. Or click on the .cfg file in the file browser. Or Manage Settings to load the .cfg file. Using the "Browse Themes" menu is pretty much the silliest of the many available options since you'll have a list of Themes mixed up with your list of EQs . Needless to say it is one of many valid methods for easily loading EQ presets, though since there's actually an option in the EQ menu to load one, it's not exactly the *suggested* method.

There's also a thread somewhere here on Misticriver that has people sharing their EQs, but I honestly don't know where it's at.

[Angryman_H10]

Just wanted to mention that EQ presets produce a skipping in tracks right now. Didn`t want to argue Hey, it all will take some time... And right now i would say... Lean back and enjoy what you have... and wait... time will come... The original firmware sucks and in my case i have a big smile and play around with rockbox^^

[wafflesomd]

Originally Posted by Llorean

Seriously, stop complaining about updates you don't like. Not everyone can work on every hardware, for example many many devs don't own players with PortalPlayer chipsets and so can't do anything that would be H10 specific. Other people, like those who fix up the plugins, often don't have the kind of knowledge in the right area to make improvements to say the audio playback engine anyway. It doesn't hurt *anything* that other less important bugs get fixed by them. So those updates matter to, since they make things better for people who use those functions, and don't cost those who don't.

I understand and apologize.

I'm not trying to complain, and I have alot of respect for you dev's., you put alot of work into this.

I would just rather like to see the hardware optimized before other things, like solitaire, are perfected.

Thats just my .02

@Angryman_H10

The OF isnt that bad, at least it has a nice 5 band EQ, that puts it over most players.

And it can used like rockbox, and by that I mean folder browsing.

Though not customizable, so you cant have the really freakin nice backrounds in blackglass.


And a question towards a rockbox dev. What exactly has to be done for there to be dual boot? I dont mean taht offensivly, I acutally want to know the technical backround of it.

[Llorean]

I can't speak from personal experience since I personally have nothing to do with the H10 effort but I would imagine it would be something like this:

The processor and hardware is initialized by the bootloader, the whichever firmware would be loaded is put into memory and started. The hardware may need to be in a different situation for the retail firmware than it needs to be for Rockbox, so they probably need to figure out exactly what situation the hardware needs to be in before the player can load the retail firmware into memory and run it properly (since our bootloader has to initialize some of the hardware just to start up and do its own stuff, which is why things aren't exactly the same as they are as if our software wasn't there).


One suggestion regarding the EQ: There are five bands. Try using less of them. I'm not sure, as I don't use it, but I seem to recall one of the other devs mentioning that how much CPU is needed depends on how many bands are active, so if you just used the High Shelf and Low Shelf ones, for example, music may not skip, and you can alter the sound somewhat with that.

[wafflesomd]

Originally Posted by Llorean

I can't speak from personal experience since I personally have nothing to do with the H10 effort but I would imagine it would be something like this:

The processor and hardware is initialized by the bootloader, the whichever firmware would be loaded is put into memory and started. The hardware may need to be in a different situation for the retail firmware than it needs to be for Rockbox, so they probably need to figure out exactly what situation the hardware needs to be in before the player can load the retail firmware into memory and run it properly (since our bootloader has to initialize some of the hardware just to start up and do its own stuff, which is why things aren't exactly the same as they are as if our software wasn't there).


One suggestion regarding the EQ: There are five bands. Try using less of them. I'm not sure, as I don't use it, but I seem to recall one of the other devs mentioning that how much CPU is needed depends on how many bands are active, so if you just used the High Shelf and Low Shelf ones, for example, music may not skip, and you can alter the sound somewhat with that.

I will make sure to try this.


I really wish I could code, cause I'd be a dev. for rockbox deffinitly.