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Old August 4th, 2005, 02:46 PM
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Can I get a display of Folder and Song information in Rockbox?

With IR FW I liked being able to turn on the player and getting song and folder numbers. Is there someplace to get this information on the player? I looked through what I thought were the logical places, but no luck.

Is that gone now? Will it possibly be a part of a later version of RockBox?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 12:16 AM
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I agree, I kinda liked that feature, too. I'm not sure, but I made a request on the rockbox site for it.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cpenner
I agree, I kinda liked that feature, too. I'm not sure, but I made a request on the rockbox site for it.
I replied to that feature request, but didn't get any response.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 07:16 AM
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This is a great idea and very welcome. Perhaps a slight interruption with iRiver fw, it was nice having an opening "welcome" screen (that one easily could bypass)--kind of like the title page in a book. Here, that could be the great Rockbox screen that just flashes by, with some player stats (that even could be used configurable, like the WPS?). And one could bypass it if wanted thru settings or a quick right click of the joystick. I know it's cosmetic, but it just feels "right." And the stats would be useful and fun to have. (One could even have some fun with that, listing different kinds of stats, perhaps at random: last played; most played; least played; etc.)

Likewise with the database, it would be nice having a more "complete" db initial screen, perhaps with simple images (even user configurable, altho with defaults?) for the topics like the iRiver and some sort of title at top, rather than simply a list of the categories. And maybe stats as well: numbers of songs, artists and albums. It just gives matters a more "finished" feel, and the info. would be helpful.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 07:33 AM
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Do you realize that it is this stats screen that makes the iriver firmware take forever to boot? Scanning the entire hard drive to count the files and directories isn't something that just "flashes by".
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Old August 10th, 2005, 07:46 AM
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I could see having a plug-in of some sort that would count the files and folders if you really need to have this information, but I agree with Linus. I would not want to sacrifice boot time for this relatively meaningless information. Especially considering that this information is easily available through Windows if you really need it.

I recently purchased an H340 after using Rockbox for two months on my H120. The boot time on the H340 seems to take forever after Rockbox's virtually instantaneous boot.

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Old August 10th, 2005, 07:52 AM
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Agreed as to the opening screen -- didn't realize the boot-up timing issue.

But isn't this info. readily available if one has run the db previously, and couldn't it be pulled from that, or otherwise left off? Even without it, some sort of an opening screen seems to feel "right."
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Old August 10th, 2005, 12:12 PM
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Ya I didn't realize how long it would take, sorry linus. But maybe it could be a statistics page under Info or something?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 12:55 PM
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When I turn the player on I either want to resume playback or select some songs to play. Any kind of splash screen would just get in the way.

I think any kind of stats would be better off in the settings menu as it's definatly not info I need every boot.

A plugin to get the number of songs and dirs wouldn't be that hard to write. It should take less time than booting the iriver firmware as well. I wrote a plugin that scans the drive and deletes the junk files left by os x, it takes ~4 sec to run. The iriver firmware takes ~15 sec to boot on the same player.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:02 PM
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I wrote a "stats" plugin that counts dirs and files.

Available in my current build (see http://rasher.dk/rockbox/ ) and as source from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index...06&atid=439120
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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I wrote a "stats" plugin that counts dirs and files.

Available in my current build (see http://rasher.dk/rockbox/ ) and as source from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index...06&atid=439120
Thanks rasher! do you keep this page updated becuase many of the patches applied are great.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:38 PM
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It's updated as part of my build-and-install script, so whenever I update my Rockbox installation, it's updated.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 05:29 PM
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Sweet deal. Way to go rasher! Also, when rockbox is finalized, is there gonna be a page for downloading plugins?

Last edited by cpenner : August 10th, 2005 at 05:50 PM.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 05:38 PM
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Smile

Hey, I learned a lot by asking that question. I didn't know that that info was the cause of the slow boot times. But I didn't need to see it when the machine boots up. Just somewhere on the player. I'll see if I can use 'rashers' program.

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Old August 12th, 2005, 05:56 PM
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Well, it really still doesn't quite make up for the horrible boot times. I don't know quite what they're doing during boot, but it's sure is incredibly inefficient whatever it is.

My plugin takes less than 15 seconds to scan my harddisk. Iriver firmware boots in 56 seconds (db turned on). I'm guessing some of it is spent sorting the file-list, because for most of the time, there is no harddisk activity at all.
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Old August 17th, 2005, 02:47 AM
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Hey Rasher, if I have your stats source code, what do I actually do with it to create the plug-in? (Sorry to ask!) I've compiled my own code and wasn't sure where to put your code--simply in the apps/plugins folder before compiling? Thanks--
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Old August 17th, 2005, 04:59 AM
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Hey Rasher, if I have your stats source code, what do I actually do with it to create the plug-in?
I did it the following way recently:
- put stats.c to apps/plugins
- add "stats.c" to apps/plugins/SOURCES
- recompile

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Old August 17th, 2005, 10:11 AM
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Thanks for the tip--NO way I would have known or thought to do that ...
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