Radio, is that on the cards?

[munkifisht]

IS the radio on the way does anyone know, just wondering cos it would compleatly detach me from the lame iriver firmware once and for all once it does come. I like to listen to talk radio while I'm in work, but I have to reload everytime. Would be nice to get radio in seconds.

[belgarath_the_sorceror]

I'm pretty sure it will be committed for the iriver, but whether it is a question of sooner rather than later I do not know. Apparently work is under way in getting the radio function to work, so you could go on the rockbox irc and ask one of the devs about it.

[polo_o]

Has anyone heard any more about this? Lack of radio is the only thing holding back from RockBox, I flick between the two loads on the tube and buses.

[Febs]

Follow the Rockbox link in my signature and read the IriverFAQ page.

[Mike]

And so the answer is yes, but is anyone working on that/success-no-etc.? I think that's what the poster wanted to know.

[polo_o]

Thanks Mike, yep, I knew it's planned but was just making a hopefully comment if anyone new any progress.

[munkifisht]

Yea, I was just thinking about this today, and I was thinking that if there are plans to record FM, then I hope there will be plans to rewind and pause live radio. I have to go into meetings in work and it freeks me out havin to turn off my talkshows to listen to a bunch of old tits talking about the latest day glo munki poo, or whatever the boring irrelevant subject of the day is.

[cricket]

Originally Posted by munkifisht

Yea, I was just thinking about this today, and I was thinking that if there are plans to record FM, then I hope there will be plans to rewind and pause live radio. I have to go into meetings in work and it freeks me out havin to turn off my talkshows to listen to a bunch of old tits talking about the latest day glo munki poo, or whatever the boring irrelevant subject of the day is.

lol... I know the feeling!

[bazokajoe_2k]

Originally Posted by munkifisht

Yea, I was just thinking about this today, and I was thinking that if there are plans to record FM, then I hope there will be plans to rewind and pause live radio. I have to go into meetings in work and it freeks me out havin to turn off my talkshows to listen to a bunch of old tits talking about the latest day glo munki poo, or whatever the boring irrelevant subject of the day is.

I seem to remember reading that we will be able to record off the radio. I'd love to be able to do that, because there's some hilarious songs on some of the morning shows here that I simply cannot find anywhere.

As for ff/rew live radio, I can't see it. That would be similar to a PVR system for TVs, and that would mean -constant- writing/reading/erasing from the disk and buffer adjustment. Your battery would be sucked dry rather quickly.

[zezayer]

The iriver hardware can record off the radio, but it is thought that it was disabled by iriver due to interference caused by the hdd spin up.

The player can record from radio but no promises it will be ususable until someone has tested it.

[munkifisht]

Well I suppose a rewind function would require constant HD spin, because you would need to constantly write to a stroe file to hold the last say 30 mins of data, but if you hold a few seconds in a buffer, then the pause function can easily work, radio can be put on hold and the time it takes for the HDD to spin up can be held in the buffer. Then it is just a simple matter of recording to a file, as radio record would normally work, but you would also need to be able to play that file and fast/skip forward, so when the radio became live again it would be as seamless as possiable. Now, the way I see it, the solution could be to record to OGG and create short recordlenght files, and dump these from the disk when they are not needed, ie when they are scanned past. So say you pause for 45 mins, you would have 3 15 minute recordings, when you hit 30 mins, the first file is dumpped, allowing a small buffer if you want to go back. The HDD spin problem I could not see as being huge with this solution, and of course, it would be up to the user if they decided to use this feature.

[bugmenot]

Rockbox gives you the option of booting the original firmware (hold record when you turn it on). You can use that to get to the FM radio.

[DreamTactix291]

That's what he's doing. He's just wanting to know when Rockbox will have it done so he doesn't have to anymore

[rasher]

FM radio is now implemented. Presets are not available yet though. Needs some button handling changes to work.

[munkifisht]

Huzzar, Huzzar, Huzzar. Quick, get me some Huzzar Vodka to celebrate, then inebriate.

[cricket]

Originally Posted by rasher

FM radio is now implemented. Presets are not available yet though. Needs some button handling changes to work.

Hurrah! I'm sitting here right now, listening to NPR right here on my ROCKBOX! Sweet!

Edit: Found a bug - if you're listening to the radio, go out to the file browser, and hit "resume", your last playlist starts, but the radio doesn't stop. You have to actually press "stop" on when you're in the radio screen. A small thing, which I'm sure will be fixed eventually.

[Mike]

From another post, it appears that this was intentional, so that you can listen to the radio and otherwise use your player, such as to play solitaire.

[cricket]

Originally Posted by Mike

From another post, it appears that this was intentional, so that you can listen to the radio and otherwise use your player, such as to play solitaire.

Actually, what I was refering to was that the sound I was getting was both from the radio and the mp3 I was playing.

EDIT: D'oh! I just found the post you were refering to. Interesting...

[linus]

Yes, it is a bug that the radio isn't stopped when starting to play an audio file.

[Arj]

Originally Posted by zezayer

The iriver hardware can record off the radio, but it is thought that it was disabled by iriver due to interference caused by the hdd spin up.

I was playing with recording from FM radio last night. It works well and, better yet, no noticable noise from the HD spin up. I recorded about 3 minutes from one station and it recorded and played back with no apparent interference like you get with the iRiver FW. Well done! I wish I had had this when my wife and I vactioned in Antigua in June. The sound of the surf and tree frogs at night was cool and I wanted to record about 20 or so minutes of that to make something like an environments CD, but the HD noise from spin up ruined it. Looks like RockBox has that problem licked too!

[linus]

No, The HD noise will always be picked up when you record with the internal mic. It's unavoidable as the mic is so close to the HD.

[Arj]

Originally Posted by linus

No, The HD noise will always be picked up when you record with the internal mic. It's unavoidable as the mic is so close to the HD.

Ah, shame. I should have realized that since the difference is recording from FM vs. the internal mic. I'll revert to regretting that I didn't have an external mic with me at the time then.