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Old August 29th, 2004, 01:19 AM
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Neuros II MP3 Digital Audio Computer - Simply Amazing!

Just saw the review for this ugly looking HDD Mp3player, it looked so grossly ugly that i almost closed the window on the first review page. My first thoughts were that it was just some sub standard HDD Mp3 player. However as i persisted and read on, i was immediately blown away.

Other than its ugly and old exterior, this HDD Mp3 player is awesome in terms of features. You thought the iriver had alot of features? Well, double it and put them on the Neuros II Mp3 player, hell triple it even.

It has some features that i never thought existed, one that amazed me is the HiSi (Hear it! Save it!) feature. It is supposed to be able to tell you the name of a song which you have heard on radio. What it does is it records a 30 sec sample of a song that you hear from radio and stores its digital sound pattern, then when you get home and connect it to your comp you can upload the digital sound signature to a proprietary online audio database and you get the the title and artist of the song instantly. Now isnt that wonderful?

Also not forgetting its integrated FM transmitter taht works exactly like the Belkin Tunecast used with the Ipod. Plus it has recording capabilities, from internal mic, line in, and FM Tuner, programmable buttons, and get this - a removable hard disk! Meaning you can upgrade the storage capacity instantly if you want, (its maximum at present is 80 gig), or take away the HDD to get a very small 128 MB flash Mp3 player. Yes, its a flash AND a HDD player rolled into one, hence you are able to alter its portability according to your needs.

Its also reported to have an awesome sound quality. Dunno hows its compared to the H Series though.

However, even with all that features, i would probably still choose my IHP-140, cuz the IHP simply looks much much better. =) Check the review out yerself here,

http://www.buddhasbarandgrill.com/co...ew/555/26/1/0/
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Old August 29th, 2004, 02:02 AM
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Wow, it is ugly but that is a great list of features........

love the shortcut buttons

but cant we just record a 30 second grab and submit it to their db for song identification?

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Old August 29th, 2004, 03:04 AM
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yep, i think that shoudl be possible, although i dunno where to submit. And also, IHP doesnt have a radio recording function... so...
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Old August 29th, 2004, 09:28 PM
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I have a couple of friends that have them.

They have some nice features. The built-in FM-Transmitter is kinda cool -- even if it is a little weak -- if you like that sort of thing, and replaceable backbacks providing you with additional drives or just a battery (you can get a control unit that contains 128MB of flash memory). I don't know how well the HiSi feature works, but it's something I would never use (it wouldn't be of much for NPR )

If they weren't so darned ugly
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Old August 29th, 2004, 09:35 PM
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this was my second thing i was planning on getting but i couldnt find one in the best buy store and the ugly part after viewing a larger pic of it. so i didnt get it. but im still glad that i got the iriver
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Old August 29th, 2004, 10:10 PM
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Ok...can we get freekin real here ? That thing is a HUGE ugly monstrosity ! I wonder what that reviewer is getting to say that he puts it in his front jeans pocket...BULLSHEET ! Lying sack e' is ! Now feature wise, I'm honestly NOT that impressed. Ok, so it's got playlist capabilities, but to what extent... No mention of gapless either, which would be on my criteria list for now on... No line out, which the IHP has, and with the size of that freekin' thing, how could they NOT include one ?

The other stuff is more gimicky IMO, especially considering the quality of it all..I mean, the transmitter range is severely limited, and not necessarily strong even when in range. The radio features...bleh.

The only things which caught my eye, is the 60Mw output, and um...ah..what was it...Hm..can't think of what it was. But hey..no remote ? Just thought of that. So I'm supposed to carry round this humongoid thing in the streets when I need to navigate ? Please, I'm not even gonna go any further with this thing. Oh yeah..the other thing...it's open sourced ...that's pretty damned cool. Now let's see those whigning IHP users who claim to be programmers, go and buy one, and create some nifty FW for the thing !

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Old August 30th, 2004, 07:06 AM
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And I quote from the article...

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The Neuros II is a beautiful unit. I mean, let’s be honest. The color design is great.
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Hell, I’ve even been locking the buttons so they cannot be used, and then placing the unit in my front jeans pocket. Easy as that.
I think he meant 'shoving' instead of 'placing.' I'd like to see how long it takes to get that beast into a pocket.
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Old August 30th, 2004, 08:06 AM
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Charging time 8 hours for 10 hours playback???? Hello!!?
Cant they at least copy irivers battery designs to be more decent?

I mean, this thing is huge and has 10 hours playback(lets say ok) but 8 hours charging!! What the battery is made of, lead acid or Ni-cad??
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Old August 30th, 2004, 08:30 AM
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generally hdd players that double as flash player arent usually that good. it sounds like its really good, but i wouldnt want a player any bigger than the h320 to be honest, and thats a great balance of size and performance. personally i dont reckon there is any comparison.
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Old August 30th, 2004, 08:59 AM
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I bought a neuros.
I returned it.

The features seem nice, but none of them live up to thier potential.
The FM tuner is weak, and the MyFi broadcasting is weaker still. I could never get a clear transmission to my car antenna even with the player within 2 feet of it.

The software is slow and akward, the USB 2.0 connector uses a weird proprietary connector, and does not transfer songs at anywhere near max USB2.0 speed.

The small base unit is unusable without the backpack unit, since the battery is in the backpack.

After I returned the Neuros, i bought an iHP120.
I kept it.
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Old August 30th, 2004, 11:48 AM
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I was tempted to buy this thing....until I made a paper mockup of it. ITS HUGE. The supposedly "tiny" flash unit is almost the size of a regular HDD player.
Its features are great, at least on paper, but I don't want to wear a backpack to carry my player.
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Old August 30th, 2004, 02:33 PM
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I too had a Neuros MP3 player and returned it.

I simply loved the features that the Neuros had, although the FM transmitter didn't work as well as advertised for me. The main problem was the size of the unit. It was just too big. I don't really care about how "ugly" it is. I mean my iriver in it's carrying case isn't exactly a work of art. People who care about aesthetics in mp3 players should just get ipods.

The iriver crew could learn a lot from the Nueros firmware and customer support dept. Their forums are an AMAZING resource. Name another DAP manufacturer where you can talk to the president of the company if you have a problem.
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