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View Poll Results: Do you think x20 got bad sound that from?
Firmware 12 50.00%
Hardware 6 25.00%
No comment 6 25.00%
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Old May 1st, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Did you think x20 got bad sound quality from hardware or software?
2 Days ago i got brand new T10 From department store (it's sale).

and i compare with my x20

Sound very different From t10 to x20

t10 is too good for me (in the past i got clix v1 sound look good but t10 is better) now i think about x20 for sound quality

Because old model from iriver use encoder chip is Samsung and Philips

but for x20 and clix 2 from telechip

now i have lexar that use encoder chip as the same company in iriver product and sound like flat is good but if u want more bass by adjust EQ you will get bad sound (but lexar sound still fair compare with x20)

so..i'm nervous about sound quality from my x20

it can be resolve by new firmware or maybe hardware problem if hardware i think iriver company is fail to release this product


how about your think? plz tell me
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Old May 1st, 2007, 09:19 PM
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Probably a combination of both.
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Old May 2nd, 2007, 01:16 AM
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lol of both

if it's true very bad news for me
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:54 AM
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thx all for vote

i create this poll for only user opinion not for real!

i want to know many user think that bad sound are from?

plz vote more!

Thx again
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Old May 8th, 2007, 11:23 PM
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Probably firmware because in another product I have had (MotorolaROKR), firmware made A LOT of difference. Eg: One series was noted for outstanding sound and battery life while the other noted for other features.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:31 AM
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That doesn't necessarily follow.
Firmware will only be the deciding factor if the hardware is up to scratch.

There ain't no firmware in the world that can 'fix' cheap components.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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X20 doesn't have "cheap" components. It has the same decoder chip as the Cowon D2 and Clix 2 (read more in the "Rockbox on X20" thread, you'll see what I mean) so in this case, firmware drags down the hardware.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 03:31 PM
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You can't say that with any certainty unless once, say, RockBox is ported and the sound quality vastly improves.

And, for the record, my point was a general one in response to what reverendbert had said which implied it must automatically be the firmware because in previous cases of completely unrelated items, it's been the firmware.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:11 PM
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hmmm

Clix 2 Use Telechip 7801

but X20 use Telechip 8200

not same chip
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:14 PM
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Then of course, maybe I was right...
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:20 PM
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I Scare that chip because it's latest from telechip company


Maybe That chip have a defect in manufacture process maybe wait for other revision

that's my opinion
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:25 PM
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Well, of the two, there's the Clix2 which is their new flagship product and there's the X20 which is, comparatively, a 'budget' model.
And now it turns out the hardware is different.

It doesn't take a genius to realise what the reason behind that difference is...
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Old May 10th, 2007, 02:46 AM
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I wish we got the Clix2. Anyway, I wouldn't say the sound is THAT bad. There are a lot more players on the market with worse sound and NO equaliser to help fix it.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:08 AM
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I can't complain about the sound quality. It's decently loud, decently clear and yes, we have a EQ to help fix the sound problem, at least attept to fix it .

Sorry about the different chips problem. It means the other thread was wrong. However, I wish RockBox was ported to the X20. I've heard it's a real boomer!
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Old May 10th, 2007, 04:52 AM
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I wish we got the Clix2. Anyway, I wouldn't say the sound is THAT bad. There are a lot more players on the market with worse sound and NO equaliser to help fix it.
Agree to find new palyer but i'm scare telechip because i have lexap mp3 player and sound look like same quality with x20.(flat treble is good , bass is worst)

now i bought T10 that's player make me happy with sound quality.

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I can't complain about the sound quality. It's decently loud, decently clear and yes, we have a EQ to help fix the sound problem, at least attept to fix it .

Sorry about the different chips problem. It means the other thread was wrong. However, I wish RockBox was ported to the X20. I've heard it's a real boomer!
No problem guy everybody can misunderstood I'm not serious but i feel very happy becuase everybody answer my thread i want to see many opinion from whom use this player

maybe answer for firmware. That's hope

Thx all and sorry for my english
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Old May 11th, 2007, 02:07 AM
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Yea. The T10 I had was nice. liked the SRS WOW. Wish the X20 had it.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 09:08 AM
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How bad is the sound on the x20? Is it the sound from the speakers or the earphones? Does the lack of srs wow make a big difference?
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Old May 12th, 2007, 11:00 AM
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How bad is the sound on the x20? Is it the sound from the speakers or the earphones? Does the lack of srs wow make a big difference?
I mean sound quality from earphone (i'm not expect sound quality from speaker bacause imo speaker use for share music to your friend ) if u have anoter player from iriver or u had ever listening from that u will understand what i mean

hard to explain
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Old May 12th, 2007, 12:06 PM
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SRS WOW and good sound quality don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 07:21 PM
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I agree. SRS WOW could make sound worse if used or implemented incorrectly onto a device
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Old May 20th, 2007, 02:51 AM
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I never use the SRS WOW on any of my iriver players. In my opinion, it gives out poor audio quality.
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 12:17 AM
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Hey guys,
I took the advice from another post and emailed iriver. This was their response:

RE : Bass crackling and distortion

Dear sir

This is Andrew Hong, working at the Department
of Marketing Management.
Thanks for purchasing our products.

After receiving your message, we have checked
this issue.
And we decided to modify this matter with releasing
New Firmware.
It will be in the middle of June.

We feel sorry for giving you such inconvenience.

Best regards
Andrew Hong

So heres to hoping this firmware will fix it

Daniel
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 08:59 AM
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