You bought your T10---now what?!?

[Sesquash]

I invite others now to give their viewpoints on where they go to put content on their D.A.P's.

Perhaps you can offer others some of your suggestions as to good sources for new music.

[Step666]

Sorry, what was the point of that?
Once I reached your analogy likening subscription-based, DRM services to petrol, I kind of lost interest.

The flaw in your reasoning is that paying through the nose for tracks you'll never own isn't the only way of getting music to put in your DAP.
And suggesting so is unhelpful and misinforming.

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[Step666]

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Where did you see in any of this post that I suggested it was the 'only way'.

You can't run a car without petrol.
You described a subscription service as the equivalent of petrol for you DAP, so you're saying you can't use your DAP without it.

These are the same flawed analogies you've used in the past.


On top of that, your thread title reads like it's a guide for new owners.
It's grossly misleading.

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[Step666]

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Not all all!

I said cars and gas.

'so you're saying you can't use your DAP without it.'

No, YOU said that. Please quote me where I said that you can NOT use your D.A.P unless you subscribe?

By describing as petrol for your DAP that is exactly what you said.
You admit yourself you likened a subscription service to petrol, so how exactly you can then turn around and argue that it's not misleading to have done so is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

I also said T.V. and cable.

I see that you merely focused upon the ONLY comparison that did not have a direct connection to pay-to-play.

I can understand that.....

Understand what?
I never read as far as the TV part but we both know a TV doesn't require cable in the same way a car requires petrol, so it's not misleading in the same way.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

My logic for the sevice stands.

Your opinion 'stands', your logic is questionable.

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[Step666]

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Jenny

What's Jenny got to do with anything?

Originally Posted by Sesquash

I think that I would always read a poster's entire posting, before I would take up an issue with it. How else would one be fully apprised of what they stated?

And maybe if you'd said anything new, I might've but these are the same arguments you used last time with the same flawed analogies and, once again, you're presenting what is merely your opinion as being 'the best' somehow.
Nothing you've written here is new, nor did it really require a new thread.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Also, you seem fixated on gas and cars.

Your analogy, not mine.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Ok...then mentally delete that and I would welcome your critique of my other association of two entities, namely, T.V. and cable. You don't need ANY cable transcription service to 'own' a T.V.

I never said you did.
For someone who comes out with comments about reading other people's posts, you might try and read mine - I said that the whole TV/cable analogy was better than the car/petrol one:

Originally Posted by Step666

...we both know a TV doesn't require cable in the same way a car requires petrol, so it's not misleading in the same way.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Personally, I do not know of one person in this day and age that does NOT have cable (where reasonably available and priced) to compliment and maximize the usage/enjoyment of their T.V.

Speak for yourself and your own circumstances.
In the UK, cable is fairly uncommon. For a start, there's free-to-air digital channels and satellite TV is the most common form of paid subscription.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

D.A.P.'s are relatively new on the scene. Music Subscription closely followed as did cable service.

And?
No-one's arguing that it's new.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

What is flawed? I guess then that your household is one of the few hold-outs that DO NOT have a cable T.V. account for the benefits that it affords the T.V. experience?

I don't know, what is flawed? I never said there was anything wrong with the cable analogy.
Also, trying to imply that there might be something wrong with me for not having cable TV doesn't really do much for your arguments.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Cable Channel Service and T.V.'s
Janus-Enabled D.A.P's and Music Subscription Services
(Cars and Petrol) An analogy of symbiotic association and nothing more.

Except that the whole car/petrol thing is different, as I have covered already.
The car can't run without petrol but a DAP or a TV can work without either a subscription or cable.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Pick the category that has no direct association. There is none.

Sorry, what?

Originally Posted by Sesquash

Music Subscription may not be for you. Perhaps so. Nothing wrong with that.

It isn't for me, no.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

For others, it may open up a musical door to a world they never knew....because before now, it simply was not offered....

And there's nothing wrong with that but the whole tone of your post, not to mention posts you have made on similar subjects give the impression that it is somehow better than the other options, that your DAP is almost incomplete without it.
That is patently false.

A subscription-based music service is merely one choice, that doesn't automatically make it the better choice.
It may suit your needs and/or circumstances but that doesn't mean it's for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Sesquash

I never said that is was the 'only' option. I never said that it was for everyone. I never even used that phrasing. (...again, your words in my mouth) I suggested that a person try it out, and if not to their liking, could cancel.

No, your words, your mouth.
If you can't see that some of your phrases give the impression that a subscription is the only answer or that it is somehow a better choice, then you shouldn't be using those phrases.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

I want to ask you all a question; What is better than owning an iRiver T-series player?

Answer: Owning a T-series player and a music download membership.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

I have no problem in paying a monthly fee to have access to everybody that ever put in time in a studio. In fact, I thank God that this is even available!!!!

Originally Posted by Sesquash

To buy a new 50 inch flat panel screen T.V….and not also subscribe to a T.V. cable service only because I did not want to ‘pay’ to watch T.V. content, but would stick a rabbit ear antenna near it and play the ‘free’ or already owned movies that I purchased through it would be absolutely crazy.

Originally Posted by Sesquash

I voluntarily restrict my viewing choices so I can avoid a monthly sum of money, and not even an amount that would put half a tank of gas into my car?

This would be ludicrous!

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