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Old February 13th, 2007, 12:21 PM
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New T10 Firmware posted - 1.76 - pseudo gapless

FW 1.76 just posted for T10 (all flavors) - not sure all changes, but appears to have much less disruptive gaps between tracks, although not yet gapless.
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Old February 13th, 2007, 09:40 PM
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That's pretty exciting. Here's hoping they continue to make progress.
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Old February 14th, 2007, 11:58 AM
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Has the Fast Forward been Improved?

Hi all,
I use my T10 mainly for listening to audio books from my library. However,
I find that fast forwarding is way too slow. I was hoping that someone had
tried the lastest version to see if that feature was changed.
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Old February 14th, 2007, 12:50 PM
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However,
I find that fast forwarding is way too slow.
If not done already, you could change the scan speed in "Settings" -> "Advanced" -> "Scan Speed"
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Old February 14th, 2007, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fox-Birder1 View Post
Hi all,
I use my T10 mainly for listening to audio books from my library. However,
I find that fast forwarding is way too slow. I was hoping that someone had
tried the lastest version to see if that feature was changed.
You can also try the "study mode" feature.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 06:42 AM
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FW 1.76 just posted for T10 (all flavors) - not sure all changes, but appears to have much less disruptive gaps between tracks, although not yet gapless.
----------------------------------------------

Have you or anybody else found a 1.76 MTP firmware release note on what was fixed or added to within this release?

If so, could you please paste a link in this thread.

Thanks,

Sesquash
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Old February 16th, 2007, 08:36 AM
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Voila...

From Iriver japan
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Old February 16th, 2007, 09:31 AM
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Thank you for that link, but would you know where there is one in English, or, can you translate it?

Thanks!

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Old February 16th, 2007, 09:59 AM
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errr....it IS translated, no?

if not, here's what it says after google translation (I don't speak Japanese, sorry...):

"Before doing firmware upgrade, please be sure to read.


* When the firmware of T10 of errand is UMS version: It upgrades making use of iriver plus3.
* When the firmware of T10 of errand is MTP version: It upgrades making use of Firmware Updater.
Bug fix
-Correction of the problem where the OGG file of specification is not played back
-Correction of the problem which the sound flying makes the time of back light off
-At the time of Recording→ power source off, correction of the problem which cannot do reservation sound recording.
-Settings→ indication setting -> at scroll speed after “the Horizontal” setting the case of the scroll, correction of the problem where one letter [me] is not indicated "
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Old February 16th, 2007, 09:22 PM
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I guess I let my hopes get ahead of my brain . . .

Thanks for the clarification regarding changes in 1.76. I've been waiting for iRiver to finally provide gapless playback that I must have imagined improvement. Looks like minor bug fixes. Hope more comes.

R
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Old February 18th, 2007, 07:50 AM
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I have a T10 (1 gig) version is 1.04 and I can't see the voice recordings on my computer (dell 4550) when I hook the T10 to the computer even though I know they are there. Do I need to gradually upgrade to v1.7????

In the history of the upgrades the earliest one I find is v1.53 US which is item #555 page 4

do I need to go to there first and then to 1.7??? [actually tried to do this but can't seem to get the t10 to upgrade. I get the window where it asks if I want to upgrade and I select yes. It stays on for about 4 seconds and then turns off. ]

joseph
makas@nc.rr.com

please help.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 02:49 AM
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Firmware updates clarifications

Holy cow!, now there are aprox. 50 entries for the 1.76 firmware on http://nyaochi.sakura.ne.jp/iriverupdate/

Could someone please explain the naming system behind the different versions?
From what I gather:

"T10 (...)" = .zip file
"T10 Firmware" = .hex file only

KOR = korea
JAP/JPN = Japan
FRE = French(?)
EST = Australia
CNS = ?
LAT = ?
UNK = United Kingdom(?)

T10P = Pure
T10E = ? (.ini file includes both "_N_" and no "_N_" sections)
T10 = Non-Pure(?)
T10N = Non-Pure(?)

UM_OK = ?
UM_NO = ?

N_ENG/N_LAT etc. = Non-Pure(?)
T10Blues(directory) = Non-2GB models(?)

Thanks,

S.

Last edited by Shualichi_ : February 20th, 2007 at 05:41 AM.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:51 AM
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Holy cow!, now there are aprox. 50 entries for the 1.76 firmware on http://nyaochi.sakura.ne.jp/iriverupdate/
Could someone please explain the naming system behind the different versions?
Thanks for posting this question. I too, am trying to figure out this chart. I want the T10 UMS English and can't find it in that mess.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 07:18 PM
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Just use the iRiver Updater software, and it will find what you need automatically.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 01:01 AM
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Well, some of us want more control over firmware changes, such as: going back to earlier version,
having a backup for failed flash, offline firmware changes, etc.

Anybody? help...

S.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 02:33 AM
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I don't know the file name convention. I have a T10 2G and I use UMS version (I don't like MTP version). I always use the firmware file named T10N.HEX inside the zip file for my T10. I was told the firmware file T10.HEX is not for a 2G model. Besides, by examining the INF file, you may also get some hints about the firmware file. The local firmware version (described by something like LAT/JAP/FRE/...) will set the default display language to the firmware after flashed. But you can still change to your desired language later. But I am not sure if the local version has localized settings for the radio functions.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 08:19 PM
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arrigogogo, how do you flash the T10?
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 10:21 PM
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It looks like there's some additional firmware nameing going on.
An identifier like "0x4102_0x1113_N_ENG " would indicate a MTP firmware
package. 0x4102_0x1113 is the USB id for a T10-1G, MTP (the UMS firmware has the identifier 0x4102_0x1013). "N" is for Non-Pure (has FM) - "P" indicates Pure (no FM). Then a region identifier. T10N is for the 2Gig model.

Also, these old conventions may have changed. The zip file:
T10_ENG_UM_OK.ZIP
.. would have indicated T10-1G, English, UMS, Radio. The firmware name inside is T10.HEX, which is recognized by a UMS T10 (T10_MTP.HEX for the MTP firmware). But installing this had the unpleasant feature of converting my 1.75 UMS player to a 1.76 MTP player. Yech!

Skimming out the files, the Korean ones are:
http://www.iriverplus.com/tools/...
MTP/T/T10Blues/T10Blues_0x4102_0x11 20_N_KOR.ZIP
MTP/T/T10E/T10E_0x4102_0x1133_N _KOR.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1113_N_ KOR.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1117_N_ KOR.ZIP
UMS/T/T10Blues/T10Blues_KOR_UM_OK.Z IP
UMS/T/T10E/T10E_KOR_UM_OK.ZIP
UMS/T/T10/T10_KOR_UM_OK.ZIP
and English
http://www.iriverplus.com/tools/...
MTP/T/T10Blues/T10Blues_0x4102_0x11 20_N_ENG.ZIP
MTP/T/T10E/T10E_0x4102_0x1133_N _ENG.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1113_EN G.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1113_N_ ENG.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1113_P_ ENG.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1117_N_ ENG.ZIP
MTP/T/T10/T10_0x4102_0x1117_P_ ENG.ZIP
UMS/T/T10Blues/T10Blues_ENG_UM_OK.Z IP
UMS/T/T10E/T10E_ENG_UM_OK.ZIP
UMS/T/T10/T10_ENG_UM_OK.ZIP
UMS/T/T10/T10_PURE_ENG_UM_NO.Z IP

Looking at /etc/udev/rules.d/60-libmtp.rules, the
T10Blues = 4102_1120 = T10 2G MTP (T10N_MTP.HEX)
T10E 4102_1133 = ?? (T10E_MTP.HEX) anyone have one?
T10 4102_1113 = T10 1G MTP (T10_MTP.HEX, T10_MTP2.HEX ?)
T10 4102_1117 = T10 512M MTP (T10_MTP.HEX, T10_MTP2.HEX ?)

Something weird - some packages have two firmware images. Anyone know why? And why does UMS/T/T10/T10_ENG_UM_OK.ZIP change my player from UMS to MTP?
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 09:36 AM
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Thanks, OrthoB, for clarifying alot of this issue.

Also found the following thread: http://www.misticriver.net/archive/i...p/t-34354.html

subsequently looked at the head_route_firmware. inf and
T10_ENG_UM_OK.ZIP doesn't show up as a cross (ums<->mtp) firmware so no
help from there...

S.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 06:41 PM
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orthoB!!! Thank you so much, with the correct file, I was able to mod using H3Mod and got the T10 to recognize the file and upgrade. Having fun now!
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Old February 25th, 2007, 12:19 AM
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I've tried loading 1.76 again, and this time it worked (stayed UMS). But I tried the update on the 19th, and the Firmware page now shows the "Last Update" as 22-Feb! So it looks like iRiver has re-pushed corrected firmware packages. Downloading from the same URL resulted in a different package checksum, and this time it worked!.

BTW - that thread really helped me. That master .inf file makes it fairly clear what each firmware is for (and the cross MTP <--> UMS firmware!).
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Old March 7th, 2007, 02:15 PM
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can someone provide me with an MTP to UMS firmware file?
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Old March 7th, 2007, 03:11 PM
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