Possible support for other codecs?

[Digital007]

I would love to see support for other codecs such as MP3Pro, AAC or maybe even Sony's ATRAC3. Also regarding the iRivers' poor shuffling. an easy workaround for the time being is to make a playlist in Winamp and use the "Randomize playlist" option every now and then. Overall its nothing that firmware couldn't fix. The iPod feels so cheap and tacky compared to the iriver when held side-by-side.

[Exo]

AAC is like the iPod... cheap & tacky
Seriously though, you won't get AAC, it's Apple's own format, same for ATRAC being Sony's.

[snowcrash]

Exo's spot on with apple's AAC. They want to keep it locked down, itunes only and proprietry. That kind of bunker mentality prevents universal sharing/formats from developing. The last thing consumers need is format wars in music.

And that's why more of us should should support something like ogg/the open source movement

sc

[breez]

Umm, AAC is not an Apple proprietary format. It wasn't developed by Apple. Apple has no 'rights' to it, they can't lock it down. AAC support can be added to a portable if the manufacturer wants.

Open Source AAC encoder and decoder @ http://www.audiocoding.com/

[breez]

Now I'd like to see support for Musepack in iRiver.

[snowcrash]

Originally Posted by breez

Umm, AAC is not an Apple proprietary format. It wasn't developed by Apple. Apple has no 'rights' to it, they can't lock it down. AAC support can be added to a portable if the manufacturer wants.

Open Source AAC encoder and decoder @ http://www.audiocoding.com/

oops, u are right. Though most implementations of acc are closed source ie. patented and different companies use different DRM with it. In this sense i was using the term proprietary, which ain't accurate. But for the non-ipod/tunes user, they wouldn't be able to play apple's aac files, even if their player could play aac cos of apple not authorizing their drm to anyone else,(well users could find a way of getting around any drm!).
Does this make sense breez, or am I still missing something?

cheers
sc

[breez]

Originally Posted by snowcrash

oops, u are right. Though most implementations of acc are closed source ie. patented and different companies use different DRM with it. In this sense i was using the term proprietary, which ain't accurate. But for the non-ipod/tunes user, they wouldn't be able to play apple's aac files, even if their player could play aac cos of apple not authorizing their drm to anyone else,(well users could find a way of getting around any drm!).
Does this make sense breez, or am I still missing something?

cheers
sc

Makes sense, implementing Apple's DRM to a competing product, yeah, won't happen iTunes can, however, create non-protected files from own CDs, but naturally the music store sells only protected stuff.

[COOL888]

mp3pro is OK, but I did not see the point of support AAC and atrac3. Very few players supports these formats.

The most important is

real shuffle,
OTF playlist
or at least you can see the name of songs on the playlist

[Tang]

Originally Posted by zenok

Why AAC? Apples shit not on my player!
Why ATRAC? Sonys shit not on my player!
...mp3pro isn't coming really up ...
...the only thing that sounds interesting is mpc cause the people like the quality and I would like it too...

AAC is a good format... It has good quality and doean't drain to more juice unlike Ogg Vorbis...

AAC has nothing to do exclusively with Apple, Apple release ONE AAC codec with QT/iTunes but there is plenty of others AAC codec...
Of course FairPlay the proprietary Apple DRM is other things... Anyway for "interoperabilit y" purpose the DCMA tolerate that people or compagny could break any copyrighted mechnism...

So in theory Real would have right to break fairplay DRM has they did...

hope Rockbox will take this chance...

[TCK]

...spc?

[R.C]

I'd like to have MPC support.
Why there's no player that can play MPC? Is it that complicated?

[breez]

Originally Posted by R.C

I'd like to have MPC support.
Why there's no player that can play MPC? Is it that complicated?

There might be some copyright issues because MPC was developed from MP2. Hardwarewise it doesn't require much, it's even less processor intensive than MP3.

[sabaisabai]

Originally Posted by TCK

...spc?

baked beans and spaghetti?

[DreamTactix291]

Musepack support on a portable would rock although IMO Vorbis has gotten up there with it in terms of quality.

AAC isn't a bad format at all. I really like the Nero encoder for AAC files a lot. The more file format options a player can support the better.

[TedJ]

Originally Posted by breez

Makes sense, implementing Apple's DRM to a competing product, yeah, won't happen iTunes can, however, create non-protected files from own CDs, but naturally the music store sells only protected stuff.

If Apple's DRM concerns you, try doing a search for a package call PlayFair (a play on Apple's FairPlay name ) which can apparrently strip the DRM from tracks bought from the iTunes store.

[TCK]

Originally Posted by zenok

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...don't understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPC_sound_format