New 40 GB Toshiba HD - MK4007GAL

[Chris Stares]

Originally Posted by Step666

I'm a little curious as to the differences between the HDDs in the iHp-100s and the H300s and i'm hoping someone here can enlighten me.
The reason I ask is 'cos I've never heard the HDDs for the H300 series described as 'high-shock protection' and I'm wondering if they are in some way less well protected.

I believe that the original iHP-1XX drives were MK2004GAL 20GB drives (and I suspect MK4004GAH for the 40GB drives although I can't confirm this). The vibration and shock specs on these drives are as follows:

Vibration
Operating 9.8m/s2 (1G)
Non-Operating 49m/s2 (5G)

Shock
Operating 2,450m/s2 (250G)
Non-Operating 9,800m/s2 (1000G)

Being newer, the H300 series players were equipped with MK2006GAL and MK4006GAH drives which appear to my untrained eyes to have twice the shock tolerance for operating and 50% extra for non-operating:

Vibration
Operating 19.6m/s2 (2G)
Non-Operating 49m/s2 (5G)

Shock
Operating 4,900m/s2 (500G)
Non-Operating 14,700m/s2 (1500G)

Certainly, the 20GB drives in my H120's were/are MK2004GALs. The hard drive in my H340 is a MK4006GAH. I have since replaced the (broken) hard drive in one of my H120s with a MK3006GAL, which has the same specs as the MK2006GAL and MK4006GAH drives.

Looking at the specs, the X006 drives are also more power-efficient and certainly sound quieter in operation than the X004 equivalents. They seem to sound less "clunky" than their older counterparts.

Looking at Toshiba's web site, the vibration and shock ratings for the new MK4007GAL are exactly the same as for the MK4006GAH:

Vibration
Operating 19.6m/s2 (2G)
Non-Operating 49m/s2 (5G)

Shock
Operating 4,900m/s2 (500G)
Non-Operating 14,700m/s2 (1500G)

The specs suggest that they are slightly more power-efficient than the X006 drives, but clearly the main difference is that the new drives are single-platter, so are the same form-factor as the original 20GB and 30GB drives. This means that they should fit inside a H120 or H320 (without having to remove any padding and crushing everything inside to get the case back on). Obviously, I haven't tried this yet, but I'm sure someone will, and confirm that it does/doesn't work in the fullness of time!

Full specs for the three drive ranges mentioned above can be found here:

MK2004GAL (H100 series)
MK4004GAH (H100 series)
MK3006GAL
MK4006GAH (H300 series)
MK4007GAL
MK8007GAH

[NPswimdude500]

Originally Posted by Chris Stares

I believe that the original iHP-1XX drives were MK2004GAL 20GB drives (and I suspect MK4004GAL for the 40GB drives although I can't confirm this).

That's correct.

This means that they should fit inside a H120 or H320 (without having to remove any padding and crushing everything inside to get the case back on).

Oh, they will. Dimensionally they're identical....

[soulpower]

Looks available to me... from 2 stores it says.

SP

Originally Posted by HorstIriver

If you go to this link (it will show the 80GB drive) and list all Toshiba parts (left upper cornder), the 4007GAL is listed as well. But because I don't speak Japanese... could anybody check if it is available? Somewhere at the right side, it says 2006/8/1 or so...

http://kakaku.com/item/05361010225/

[look4wrd]

So are there any stores with English language websites that are selling the Toshiba MK4007GAL?

[DrSuave]

not that i have found

[JosephAquilina]

They still havnt released on retail I contacted the UK toshiba and one of my mates who owns a PC building company and he said they wont. he said "The retail needs direct support and they just can’t be bothered with that"
Im gonna think of another way!!!

[JosephAquilina]

Dudes have a look at this translation of the site in Japan
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

click on toshiba and the Ctrl+F MK4007GAL then use a currecy convert

[captain_cornflake]

Seems reasonable enough ~70 GBP for the MK4007GAL or ~110 GBP for the MK8007GAH.

Looks to be some kind of front end for multiple small shops though? And do they actually have any stock?

From my experience from when I visited Japan, English isn't overly common so communication may be an issue.

[Danfried]

Note that in the forum comments on that site, one fellow successfully used the drive to upgrade his two-year-old H320!

I'm going to have to look around Beijing. So far I've had no luck finding it online in China (where it is probably manufactured), but I think I'll try some of the DIY shops in person.

[PooJou]

Span have the 4007GAL as "coming soon" - my 3006GAL is on the way tho

[simonnomiS]

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=...language_tools
this "add to cart" site is the last station thats being translated, the price is around 100 euros, any way to find out if they ship to outside of japan?would be so good to get that hdd...
simon

[Dunno]

Originally Posted by Danfried

I'm going to have to look around Beijing. So far I've had no luck finding it online in China (where it is probably manufactured), but I think I'll try some of the DIY shops in person.

I think thats a good way of finding these things in the east.

I browsed through a few shops in Singapore before i stumbled upon one which had a 7200rpm 100gig hard drive for my notebook.

[simonnomiS]

http://www.computergiants.com/items/...t=161086&aff=6
found a shopthats got it in stock and does int shipping, 130$! please see this
thread All h320 user willing to upgrade to 40 gb LOOK
simon

[shadesbass]

If you's have read previous threads on the subject, you'd know that computergiants don't have any in stock at the moment, as Arj has stated in this thread (post #24)

The computergiants website even says "will ship out next week" so they obviously don't have any in stock.

[b3nn3nn]

FYI. I just got one of these MK4007GAL from ComputerGiants last Friday (March 10, 2007). I ordered it before I read all the out of stock messages then tried to get the tracking info. They didn't respond to my email and didn't answer the first time I called support about it, but finally got someone who confirmed their supplier had sent it out (which they had). They just weren't able to give me a tracking number.

Anyhow, drive came within a week and works well in my iHP-120. Used "Paragon Partition Manager" to format it since it was over the 32Gig limit for WinXP (also put in a new 1700 mAh battery while it was open).

[lmorse]

Originally Posted by simonnomiS

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=...language_tools
this "add to cart" site is the last station thats being translated, the price is around 100 euros, any way to find out if they ship to outside of japan?would be so good to get that hdd...
simon

Hi, I am keen to upgrade my HD (I love my H320!!!), it seems like this link does show the HD, I can't translate and can't work out how to order. Has anyone had any luck with ordering from here? BTW It seems that ComputerGiant no longer advertise the MK4007GAL,

Lee

[Peacegec]

Does anyone know if the Toshiba Gigabeat MEG-F40S 40 GB hard drive is a MK4007GAL? if so several online stores are selling the Gigabeat for $100 including Amazon.com. Is it possible to buy the Gigabeat and take out the hard drive and put it into a H120?

Thanks

[Wolfen]

I was thinking the same....

[Judge2112]

Just got an email from Span.com that the MK4007GAL is due to be in stock in 14days and that you can order now.

Just ordered mine.

[Magicrampart]

Originally Posted by Judge2112

Just ordered mine.

Yep, just had the same notification from SPAN and ordered one for myself too

[Arj]

Here's hoping! I just ordered as well. Hope they are more reliable than Computergiants.

[DrSuave]

called span earlier... and they said that toshiba or who ever they get them from have said that it should be 14 days but might be 14 'working days'....

ordered on anyway so i can upgrade my mates ipod