Alternative Chargers for the H100's

[Haku]

Going with LAB DESIGN's original thread (Alternative H300 chargers), I hope he's ok with me doing an almost verbatim copy of his original post (why re-invent the wheel ), I thought it'd be handy to know what other chargers are out there that have been successfully used on H100 players.


So, please post the alternative chargers that are guaranteed to work with the H100 series.
You can also post car chargers. links and bold them.

H100 Series Power Supply Specification

• DC power plug: 3mm x 1.35mm
• polarity: -(+ <<<< link. You must get this correct!
• voltage: 5v max
• amps: 2 amp max

Which is all stated in the manual

We need to know the mains power supply of different countries.

UK: 230/240 volts, AC 50Hz (Hz = hertz/frequency)

This guide is to try and ensure that nobody else 'burns out' the charging circuit of their iRiver H100 series.


It is also useful for people travelling abroad.


We believe that the original charger that was included with your H100, is the only charger that should be used to charge the H100.
However.. There will be occasions where people will want/need to use a different charger.

Disclaimer: I have only started this thread as a guide. The points made above, should ensure that you don't inadvertently make the mistake of 'burning out' the charging circuit of your iRiver H100 series by using a different charger. I take no responsibility if you do use a different charger... You do this at your own risk!

Not every person that owns a H100 will see this!


Take care when using Alternative Chargers.

Always Check The Chargers Specification

(it is very easy to 'burn out' the charging circuit).






Haku (with thanks to LAB DESIGN)


Please don't spam up the thread with nonsense, But please add your recommendations.

[Haku]

I'll start the ball rolling with an alternative charger that I know works because I've used it several times on my H140:

The PSU that comes with Creative Travelsound speakers, which like the H100's PSU, will happily run off US and UK mains power provided you give it the right mains plug:

[Mr Whippy]

I have this charger (Ripmax Constellation) In theory it should charge the iriver, in fact should be safer than the stock charger? I take it the stock charger is a always-on no shut off type, and the charge circuit is part of the battery? I can enter 3.6v or 3.7v, enter in the battery capacity in iriver case 1300mah, and charge current anywhere between 100mah and 7A - say 1.5A

Fast Charge and Discharge
- 1-25 cell NiCad/NiMH Batteries
- 2-12v lead Acid Batteries
- 3.6-14.8v Lithium Ion/Lithium Polymer Batteries
• 100-700OmA Fast Charge Current (120Watt Maximum)
• 100-300OmA Discharge Current (20 Watt Maximum)
• User Definable Memories for
- Battery Pack Type, Number of Cells, Capacity
- Charge/Discharge Current
- Delta Peak sensitivity (NiCad/NiMH only)
• 2 Line LCD Display
• Delta Peak Detection/Zero Current Voltage Check
• Temperature detection voltage cutoff
(NiCad/NiMH only)
• 12v DC input voltage
• Audible Function Alarm
• Integral Cooling Fan

[LAB DESIGN]

Nice one Haku. I was hoping people would start similar threads for other units. I feel flattered that you used my guide as a template.. so to speak.

Thanx for the compliment. I've edited my sig to include your thread too.

LAB DESIGN

[Haku]

LAB, cool


Whippy, I wouldn't try charging an iRiver with a peak charger designed for RC batteries because I think they work on the principal they have total access to the battery with no other electronics plugged in at the same time, I'm guessing either it would refuse to charge the iRiver because it can't sense the battery properly (iRiver's charging circuitry in the way) or it would do damage.

[dhutch]

Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

I have this charger (Ripmax Constellation) In theory it should charge the iriver, in fact should be safer than the stock charger?

That would charge the battery if you removed it from the player first. But, if you wired that up to the DC-in on the iRiver that best you could hopefore it nothing. More likely you'd get smoke.

The iRiver has its charge circuity built into it. what people are (wrongly) calling a 'charger' is actually just a power supply to power the charger in the player.

It would be like trying to run the Constellation off a Pulstar, or visa-versa.


Daniel

[LAB DESIGN]

Umm... It really don't matter what you want to call it.. adapter/charger/power supply.
This thread is to provide an 'alternative' of those whatever-you-want-to-call-it-things... That transfers volts into the unit to charge the battery.

LD

[Haku]

I discovered the PSU that comes with the Archos AV500 works perfectly on the H1xx, as does the H1xx PSU work perfectly on the Archos AV500.

[this bit will be updated with a picture of the Archos PSU later]

[Mr Whippy]

Originally Posted by LAB DESIGN

Umm... It really don't matter what you want to call it.. adapter/charger/power supply.
This thread is to provide an 'alternative' of those whatever-you-want-to-call-it-things... That transfers volts into the unit to charge the battery.

LD

Since a adaptor is different to a charger and is different to a power supply yeah I think it does matter. A adaptor is used for different plugs across the world, but you might also need a step up or step down transformer if the power supply/charger isn't a auto switching unit. In a "dumb" device where the power supply also contains the charger circuit, ie in radio control transmitters. Then you have likes of irivers where the charging circuit is inside the unit so power supply is needed.

[LAB DESIGN]

Well.. YEAH I GUESS IT DOES.. Seeing as the manual refers to it as an 'AC Adapter'.

But nobody died as a result of calling it a charger.. Call it what you like.. I know what people are talking about.

"Thats a mighty fine charger you have there my friend"...
"What.. how dare you!"....

Grow Up!

LD!

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Haku

I discovered the PSU that comes with the Archos AV500 works perfectly on the H1xx, as does the H1xx PSU work perfectly on the Archos AV500.

[this bit will be updated with a picture of the Archos PSU later]

Haku--

Only slightly offpoint but relevant to a separate thread--

Do you like the Archos AV500? Any recommendations between it and the iAudio X5 60 gb?

My iHP-140 is 38 gb+ full, and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Was thinking of one of the above 2 players (or an Apple, but from what I've heard, I'm too much in the iRiver camp for that). I like (love!) the Archos' 100 gb drive, but my player travels with me daily, to work, in the car, outside on hikes, and taking the beautiful screen travelling makes me a bit nervous . . . .

[LAB DESIGN]

Originally Posted by Mike

Haku--

Only slightly offpoint but relevant to a separate thread--

Do you like the Archos AV500? Any recommendations between it and the iAudio X5 60 gb?

My iHP-140 is 38 gb+ full, and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Was thinking of one of the above 2 players (or an Apple, but from what I've heard, I'm too much in the iRiver camp for that). I like (love!) the Archos' 100 gb drive, but my player travels with me daily, to work, in the car, outside on hikes, and taking the beautiful screen travelling makes me a bit nervous . . . .

Only Slightly!... OFF POINT!

Never mind.. theres a whole beautiful green to play with...

LD

[Mike]

Well, it's off-point, but it's tied to another post here that's on-point.

So it's only "slightly" off-point.

[LAB DESIGN]

Oook...
I'm cool with it all.. It's Christmas.. Enjoy yours

LD

[Mike]

And actually, there's a separate thread on the Archos. http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33998

And so I'll return this thread to its regularly scheduled broadcasting . . . .

[LAB DESIGN]

Originally Posted by Mike

And actually, there's a separate thread on the Archos. http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33998

And so I'll return this thread to its regularly scheduled broadcasting . . . .

And done Sorted M' XMas ..

LD

[Ronin317]

As posted in the H300 thread...Sima Chargers work - and they include adapter tips that fit both the H1XX and H3XX players. I don't know about the H1X series yet, but I'm working on that.

For the H1XX, the tip is 3.3mm x 1.35mm, tip positive (the player is neg), and the chargers run 5.0V @ 1.9Amps. I've tested all of them with my own H320 and it's all good...


I wasn't sure if I was allowed to post links, being that I work for the company now...

www.simacorp.com is the main company site. Each of the Adapters is adjustable to 5.0V and 1.9Amps. I use a 70 at work to charge my H320 every few days...Charges quickly and safely. I've tested all of these with my own 320, and they all work flawlessly.

Keep in mind that the Prices listed on the site are MSRP...meaning you'll have to look elsewhere for "street" price, but Best Buy and Circuit City carry the 60 and 70.

Here's the SUP-70
http://www.simacorp.com/products/item.ep.html?id=494

Here's the SUP-60
http://www.simacorp.com/products/item.ep.html?id=493

And here's the SUP-75.
http://www.simacorp.com/products/item.ep.html?id=504

[zezayer]

Obviously there are the boxwave usb car plane battery & wall Chargers for many countries

[qwert-e]

Hi,

Have a look at this site http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/compatible.htm All Type X devices use chargers which are interchangable - just check the input voltage is correct for your country if you're using a charger from a different country.

The same is true for type Y devices with the exception of the Sony chargers which use a different voltage.

[coneybug]

My HP120 is a pile of parts sitting in a plastic bucket because i fried it. Tried to save money by using a charger that i had that was 'close' and was that a mistake. ( Use the one that comes with it or buy a OEM.

[NPswimdude500]

it's a fairly common occurrence: Current 1xx owners--please read !!

this thread was very much needed....props to Haku

[Julius106]

Hi Guys,

I own an Iriver HP120 and my power AC-DC adapter is dead. I bought my Iriver in the US but I live in Australia. It says Input 100-240V, 350mA 50/60Hz Output 5V 2A. I need a new adapter ASAP! Please, can anyone indicate me where I could buy an adapter in Australia? I tried to look at the Iriver online store in the US and they have sold out those adapters...

Thanks

Jules