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View Poll Results: Did this trick improve your DB startup time?
Yes, it was a 70-100+ % improvement! 3 7.32%
Yes, it was a 50-69 % improvement! 1 2.44%
Yes, it was a 30-49 % improvement! 0 0%
Yes, it was a 19-29 % improvement! 2 4.88%
Yes, it was a 10-19 % improvement! 2 4.88%
Yes, it was a 0-9 % improvement! 1 2.44%
There was no difference! 1 2.44%
It just got worse! NOW I AM MAD! 3 7.32%
I did not try it...don't want to / I have no interest in improving my DB startup time 28 68.29%
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Old August 29th, 2004, 03:06 AM
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The xcopy trick only makes a significant difference if you don't use the database
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Old August 29th, 2004, 07:30 AM
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Actually, ep0ch, it helps even with the db on as well--shaved 7-8 seconds off my earlier 65 second db start-up time (28 GB/350 folders/6100 tunes).
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Old August 29th, 2004, 08:43 AM
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Well I'm using O&O Defrag at the moment, and like he said, it does make the startup time a lot faster. I got at least 5 seconds off of mine, but then I'm using an H120
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Old September 8th, 2004, 05:59 PM
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I decided to take the plunge and do some maintenance tonight.
Upgraded the firmware, formatted the drive (from the iHP menu) and recopied everything using the XCOPY method and recreated the DB using iHPtools. Also, as I am now using SyncBack, as recommended by people here, I can exclude all the thumbnail-related files which serve a purpose on the PC but not on the iHP and so cut down the number of files on the iHP.

Startup without the DB is a massive improvement. Down from about 26 secs to about 8 secs.

With DB... too long to be practical. Something like 3 minutes, but I stopped looking after 2 minutes.

But I'm happy because I don't really feel the need to use the database, and the bootup time was my No 1 gripe with the -120.

For reference, there are just under 7500 songs in about 900 directories. About 15.5 Gb used on the 20Gb drive.

I imagine that any improvement from the firmware upgrade is negligible and thats its nearly all down to having the directory structure at the start of the drive. Not sure if removing the redundant thumbnails helps speed it up, but it certainly gives me more space.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 05:58 AM
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How exactly do you remove ID1 tags in Godfather?
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 07:11 AM
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well --

my h140 is full- and it has 8194 songs on it!

it takes just under 20 seconds to boot up!

is that normal?
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 07:42 AM
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I have around 32 GB of music/375 folders/6700 songs, and boot-up takes 12-15 seconds without the db on, around 70 seconds with the db on. And so, yes, your boot-up seems normal.

Rockbox would cut it significantly; people are talking like 3 seconds.
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Old March 23rd, 2005, 09:01 AM
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nice!-- can't wait for this rockbox thing-- they're doing us proud!!
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Old March 31st, 2005, 11:08 AM
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Smile Balls to the lot of you!

Since using Irivium, it has always been thus; with dbscan 11.5 seconds. without dbscan 16 seconds. This is irrespective of the amount of data on board. So, big hairy swinging ones it is.
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Old April 2nd, 2005, 09:12 AM
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hi, after going through the thread.....i still dont really understand how to reduce the start-up time.....

can someone summarize how to do it??? thank.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 09:55 AM
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Irivium solved problem

Using Irivium solved the problem totally for me.

Before: 3750 files in 1 /all music folder, start up time 3 minutes with DB scan, about the same without DB scan

After: 3750 files in 523 folders, automatically organized by genre/artist by Irivium, start up time 17 seconds without DB scan, 50 seconds with DB scan. Now that my folders are so organized, I dont really need to use DB scan anymore.

I did this without wiping the drive on my iHP-120, just had Irivium reorganize the files automatically into folders. Took less than 5 minutes.

Irivium is worth it for this function alone, and there is A LOT more stuff there. Awesome product.
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