The Clix battery issue is REALLY a problem!!! Solve it!

[Goodgot001]

Originally Posted by G_FUnc1337

Wouldn't a removable battery fix this whole issue?

The problem is not in batteries themselves, but in the way the sleep mode drains batteries!
Whe should have the choice to turn off the clix, not just turn it to sleep mode! This is a solution to the issue..

THE BATTERY IS OK!
I can play over 23 hours of mp3 VBR in HIGH bitrate!!!

[scrannelclix]

I agree, easily got 20 hours continuous play time.

[HolyWoodHell]

the problem is the use of SRS WOW, just set normal eq and you'll get more battery life


or am i wrong?

[_gmureddu_]

Originally Posted by HolyWoodHell

the problem is the use of SRS WOW, just set normal eq and you'll get more battery life


or am i wrong?

Right and wrong. SRS WOW drains a LOT of battery while you use the player, the sleep mode keeps on draining a bit of battery when the device is idle (not as much as if you were "using it idle", i.e only had the backlight off, but still drains battery.

[dh2344]

Originally Posted by Ted Yo!

If I remember right, your claim was "If I use this thing to listen to a couple of songs for maybe an hour and then turn it off, the next day the battery is dead." This is quite a bit different from the OP's description of shortened battery life.

I have been wondering for a while now if there isn't a problem with manufacturing where there is a small (or in some cases large) drain to ground while in sleep mode. This would explain why there is such a large variance in observations and why some people seem not to see a problem at all. I know that in my own experience I have listened to a 16 hour audio book at ~4 hours per day and made it to the end without recharging (but I was flashing at the end and hoping I had enough juice to hear the last chapter). Of course audio books may just be worlds apart from normal music in what they need to store during standby.

I can add some weight to this one.I have tracked this post down because I thought that I might have a fault with my 4gb CLIX. I have had it a week now and listened to it for roughly six hours. 6 separate sessions: 1 hour each time and it is now charging a 3rd time!! At first I thought I had left the player on so I charged it on Tuesday night. Used it for an hour on Wednesday morning then an hour on wedneday night, Used it today for 2 hours and checked the battery this evening and it is on 1 bar! Is there no way to turn this unit off. If it is on standby then it is draining the battery full time which is ridiculous.

[Ted Yo!]

If you look, cleosandclix is doing a battery drain study right now:

A battery test for clix

So far it seems that during active playback the clix uses about 5% of the battery per hour. During sleep mode it uses about 0.5% per hour. So for every 10 hours of sleep you lose about 1 hour of play time.

From your description you have used it for ~4 hours and had it in sleep mode for ~34 hours (giving as long a guess as I can imagine). This would mean that you are seeing ~2.4% battery useage per hour during sleep mode or roughly 5X what cleosandclix has observed.

Assuming that 1) I haven't miscalculated and 2) you haven't exagerated - this supports my theory that some units drain faster then others.

...or maybe the 4G version can't be compaired to the 2G version because the difference in memory type is too great...

[clieos]

Originally Posted by Ted Yo!

From your description you have used it for ~4 hours and had it in sleep mode for ~34 hours (giving as long a guess as I can imagine). This would mean that you are seeing ~2.4% battery useage per hour during sleep mode or roughly 5X what cleosandclix has observed.

@Ted Yo! Won't that be ~44hrs (instead of 34hrs) for 2 days? Oh, maybe you are right as he/she may not use it for the full day.

@dh2344 My guess is you should have around 50% battery left base on what you described. The best thing to do is to do a battery drain test. Let it run (repeatedly) on some songs and see how long it will go in a single run. Yes you will waste one day but the result is much more conclusive.

[Ted Yo!]

Won't that be ~44hrs (instead of 34hrs) for 2 days? Oh, maybe you are right as he/she may not use it for the full day.

I was going off from the fact that s/he posted at 3PM on Thursday - then subtract 2 hours of active use is a total of 13 hours sleep for the day. Assuming s/he stopped charging at 1:00AM Wednesday from the overnight charge on Tuesday minus 2 hours of active use for the day gave 21 hours of sleep for the day.

Many assumptions, but I did come up with the number logically.

[_gmureddu_]

Bottom line seems to be that the battery drain pattern seems to be too heterogeneous.

[timothyburgess]

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing the poor battery life with the Clix (I have the 4GB version)?

Over a period of three days, shutting the player down each time when its not in use, I am getting about 6hrs of listening time. I did a net search and there seems to be a consistent issue with the clix and is reported over at misticriver.net.

I am not sure if it is a battery isssue as such or that the player is using battery while it is in shut down mode but it ruins this great product. I have a ifp-599 and its battery life is 10 times better with the same type of usage.

I am going to do a few tests and post the results for everyone to see.

For the record EQ is set to Normal. Play volume is 25, screen shuts down after 1min and brightness is medium.

Cheers, Tim

[clieos]

what type of codec you used for songs?

It will be also helpful if you can get the playback + sleep mode time a little bit more precise.

Another thing, you will save yourself sometime guessing if you just do a non-stop battery drain test to see how long the battery will hold.

[dh2344]

Originally Posted by clieosandclix

@Ted Yo! Won't that be ~44hrs (instead of 34hrs) for 2 days? Oh, maybe you are right as he/she may not use it for the full day.

@dh2344 My guess is you should have around 50% battery left base on what you described. The best thing to do is to do a battery drain test. Let it run (repeatedly) on some songs and see how long it will go in a single run. Yes you will waste one day but the result is much more conclusive.

Ok I have just let it run down. I set the eq to custom and all settings were on average. The volume was on 10 and it was playing back WMA files encoded at 192 kbs. As I have roughly 500 tracks its didn't need to repeat any tracks. I started playing it at 11:00pm last night and it died today at 16:30 so thats 16 .5 hours on continuous play. Not quite the 25 hours quoted although not sure if Iriver's figures were at a specific volume and eq setting. Will try again this evening to see if the battery benefits from a complete drain - charge cycle as it is a new unit.

[clieos]

I updated the FAQ to include a setting for a 'standard' battery test, have a look (in my sig.).

[soundsostupid]

i totally agree, they either do that or we can find an ultra long battery that we can replace.

[NOA_Shadow]

This could be a problem for me....but yeah, why did they make it go in standby for 24hrs? lol, w/e, I can probably deal with it seeing as I'll be charging every second I'm not using it(ie. sleeping)

[timothyburgess]

Yep. I am experiecing this issue wth the 4GB player.

There is definetly something wrong with the player. Battery runs 25hrs no problems with continuos play but runs down in about 3 days when "Shut Down" and only a few hours of play.

have run the player ovenight without "Shutting Down" and the battery is fine. 25hrs of playback. The issue must be that the player consumes heaps of battery when it is shutdown. Another test and I will post the results here.

[EDIT] Please don't double post! Use the 'edit' function instead. ~clieosandclix

[timothyburgess]

have run the player ovenight without "Shutting Down" and the battery is fine. 25hrs of playback. The issue must be that the player consumes heaps of battery when it is shutdown. Another test and I will post the results here.

[NOA_Shadow]

This is possible to fix through a Firmware upgrade, right?

[jeff]

It does seem to be hit or miss however as the two clix 4GB players i'm using and one that a friend has are not experiencing the issue. However, i've forwarded the information to iriver and discussed it with them at CES and they're working on it.

In the mean time you can simply work with it or reset it with the hold button on should you want to shut it completely off.

[clieos]

Originally Posted by soundsostupid

i totally agree, they either do that or we can find an ultra long battery that we can replace.

Longer battery (generally)= Larger size. It might not fit.

Originally Posted by timothyburgess

There is definetly something wrong with t