iriver clix - user selectable transfer protocol?

[Breakdown]

ok but it's not an opinion poll for people to "express their opinion" since it is talking about firmware release.

[Step666]

Originally Posted by Breakdown

ok but it's not an opinion poll for people to "express their opinion" since it is talking about firmware release.

But it is...

Originally Posted by jeff

Please let your voice be heard in the poll if you'd like to see iriver implement this in the current clix lineup or any future or past players.

That's asking for people's opinions and it specifically makes reference to older players, meaning that the poll will never be unnecessary or irrelevant.

[ShyAnne]

Originally Posted by Step666

And there was the one for the iHP-100s.
And there was the US firmware for the H300s.

Oh, now that makes three, you might almost say they have a habit of doing it...

Add the entire T-series flash players (T10, T20, T30) to the list. All T-series players (except Asian models) were originally MTP only, until user-created hacked firmware allowed conversions to UMS. When iriver saw users quite happily voiding warranties just for the ability to have UMS, they released an official MTP<->UMS converter.

Then the T10 2GB was released with a new firmware version, 1.71, that added no new features but was locked against UMS conversions. After a collective roar from users, and potential customers who would not consider buying the 2GB without ability to convert to UMS, iriver suddenly changed the updater to recognize the T10 2GB's formerly 'locked' firmware.

History and habit indeed, when there is enough demand for something they do tend to listen and respond.

[clieos]

The fact is, clix is a joined project for iriver and Microsoft to develop a MTP only U10 model and the partnership really isn't something iriver can just ignore all together.

This poll has served its function on the sense that the clix2 development team did say that the inclusion of MTP-UMS function into clix2 is based on 'users request' when they were interviewed on clix2 press release.

As clix slowly makes its way into history, the chances for a clix UMS firmware release is getting slimmer and slimmer (if there is such chances in the first place). Personally, I rather see the standby time been reduced from the current 24hours to 6~8 hours (or better yet, a true shutdown) in the next firmware than anything else. At least, such update will improve the battery usage and extend the 'real life' battery life quite a lot.

[Breakdown]

Originally Posted by ShyAnne

Add the entire T-series flash players (T10, T20, T30) to the list. All T-series players (except Asian models) were originally MTP only, until user-created hacked firmware allowed conversions to UMS. When iriver saw users quite happily voiding warranties just for the ability to have UMS, they released an official MTP<->UMS converter.

Then the T10 2GB was released with a new firmware version, 1.71, that added no new features but was locked against UMS conversions. After a collective roar from users, and potential customers who would not consider buying the 2GB without ability to convert to UMS, iriver suddenly changed the updater to recognize the T10 2GB's formerly 'locked' firmware.

History and habit indeed, when there is enough demand for something they do tend to listen and respond.

lol the Tx0 series isn't old. The MTP<->UMS switch was even made for the U10.

[Step666]

Originally Posted by Breakdown

lol the Tx0 series isn't old. The MTP<->UMS switch was even made for the U10.

Older than the Clix.
But, like Anne says, it's further evidence to suggest that there may well be one more firmware update coming for the Clix. And any chance that that one last firmware includes the ability to switch between UMS and MTP will surely be increased by leaving this poll open and letting more people vote.

[Jenny]

I've deleted some "Am not! Are too!"-type posts that have nothing to do with the thread, and edited a couple of posts containing references to them. Please keep future posts on topic.

[Breakdown]

Originally Posted by Step666

Older than the Clix.
But, like Anne says, it's further evidence to suggest that there may well be one more firmware update coming for the Clix. And any chance that that one last firmware includes the ability to switch between UMS and MTP will surely be increased by leaving this poll open and letting more people vote.

The Tx0 being older than the clix is besides the point. The firmware for it was released before the clix.
How is more people voting going to make a firmware to appear? iriver most likely asked jeff to make this poll on what to do with the clix2. They already know what people think.

[Jenny]

The poll is staying open. End of discussion on this matter.

[Breakdown]

sure..got to love mod tyranny. At least Step was willing to argue against me.

[Jenny]

I'm willing to argue, if it's relevant to the thread. That argument wasn't, so it went.

[riceburner]

So is there any way to do UMS now, any sort of a hack or anything? I just picked up a 2GB Clix and I am NOT using WMP to transfer files/sync the player. That program is terrible in so many ways. If it means I can't have album art, so be it.

[ShyAnne]

Your question is from last month, but somebody else must have voted in the poll as the thread is at the top of the index again. Maybe you'll see this answer, maybe not.

Originally Posted by riceburner

So is there any way to do UMS now, any sort of a hack or anything?

Not for 1st generation Clix, it's MTP only. There is no user-created firmware to make it UMS. 2nd generation Clix has a user-selectable menu item on the player that allows MTP or UMS. At the present time it doesn't look like iriver will release any UMS firmware for 1st generation Clix.

Originally Posted by riceburner

I just picked up a 2GB Clix and I am NOT using WMP to transfer files/sync the player.

I don't have a 1st gen Clix but iriver players have similarities, so if 1st gen Clix MTP mode works anything like T-series players then you don't have to use WMP. If you want to use software any MTP music management program should work. (Media Monkey, Yahoo Music, etc.)

If you don't want to use any software then drag-and-drop will still work, but you don't have the full control you would have if it operated as UMS. That means no creating folders or renaming files directly on the player. You have to create all your folders on the desktop in Windows Explorer, then drag over the completed folders.

[Didier86220]

MTP is for business
UMS is for pleasure

[cxg174]

Yes, I much prefer drag and drop, and have had a lot of problems with the other method. It would be nice if we could set it to a preferred method.

[xpcoolz]

one of the reason i bought clix was this feature. I love drag & drop mode and hate ipod for itunes.