Download Now - iRiver Playlist Editor

[walrus84]

Ok re downloaded and... it works!!! must have been a bad download, as you said. Thanks for your help!!!

[blairski]

Great little program - just one problem though. My H120 will only play some of the songs on the playlist (approx half). Any reason why this might be? The file length is ok. Some of the songs playing are ogg vorgis and the rest are MP3, so thats not the problem. Any ideas? I have had similar probems with winamp and iriverium.

[Quatre]

this may sound really dumb but how do you use this playlist prog?

I've used winamp to create a playlist from songs on the player nad save the m3u to the player and they do not work as it gets the error. somehow i have 3 m3u that work but the rest don't and all were just transferred to the player in the corresponding folder.

I cannnot figure out the difference between the ones that work and the ones that don't.

So i try this play list prog and i dont get wtf it does.

all it has the option to do is open a playlist. I thought it helps you make the playlist and save to the iriver player in a working format

do i just make the m3u with winamp and then open it in the playlist prog and then what? what is the point of it?>

it doesn't let me add any tracks to make a playlist so wtf is it for.


Ok i guess the playlist editor is just to view the playlist to see what is wrong with it or something?

so it looks like my filenames are over 52 chars which is the problem

so how does the playlist prog help me reduce them? or do i have to do that manually to each file in which case what is the use of the prog?

[Febs]

Originally Posted by Quatre

this may sound really dumb but how do you use this playlist prog?

Did you read the help file?

How To: Create a new playlist

1. Connect your iRiver player to your computer.
2. Download the program into your iRiver's hard drive.
3. Double click on the program to run (if you are getting an error, check the FAQ section).
4. To add songs, drag and drop the music files/folders from PLAYER'S HARD DRIVE into the program's left box.
5. To delete songs, select songs in the playlist, then right click to delete from playlist.
6. Go to menu File, then click on "Save", and save into any folder in PLAYER'S HARD DRIVE.

It literally doesn't get much easier than that.

If the problem is that your filenames are more than 52 characters long, use a program like Tag and Rename, The Godfather or mp3tag to rename them.

[edil]

Hey, I download it today, thanks for sharing this utility, great job!

It helps me managing my playlists and I will keep using it but I still need something more and with due all respect I will take the chance to ask here.

I need a utility that creates playlists by ID3 tags. Something like the TDT option where after updating the database, you can automatically create playlists by artist, genre or albums. The problem with TDT, as with many other utilities (for some reason that escape my comprehension), is that it doesn't support the composer tag filed or actually any other tag field.

For example let say that there 3 different composer names were found after reading the COMPOSER TAG data. If I specify only the tag field [COMPOSER] without a search keyword, 3 playlists files are going to be created named with the data:

Composer_Bach.m3u
Composer_Vivaldi.m3u
Composer_Mozart.m3u

Since nobody seems to care about the composer let me put another example. If you specify the tag fields [YEAR, COMMENT] and the search keywords [1980, UpBeat] then only one file will be created:

1980_UpBeat.m3u

filled only with tracks that contains those keywords in the specified tags

That can go on and on:

Wildcards or partial expression can be used
[ARTIST, YEAR, COMMENT] [______,199*, mellow]
Madona_1991_mellow.m 3u
Madona_1993_mellow.m 3u
Cristina Agulera_1996_mellow. m3u
Cristina Aguilera_1998_mellow .m3u

[ARTIST, GENRE, COMPOSER] [_______, Classical Barroque,_____]
Andres Segovia_Classical Barroque_Bach.m3u
Imochichi_Classical Barroque_Vivaldi.m3u
etc, etc.

You got the idea, right?

I wish I could do this but I'm not a programmer I can do simple stuff in GW-BASIC though, so if you tell me how to read tags from GW-BASIC I can give it a try?

[Quatre]

sorry if this is in another thread but i didn't feel like re typing it what is actually more valid for this thread regarding the playlist prog.

yeah I realized it was the filenames that were over 52 chars that caused it to not work on the h320. all that playlist prog was able to do was shoe me which tracks were over 52 after i made the playlist and loaded it in that prog. so while mildly helpful you can't edit it in the prog or make a compaitble playlist form the prog so i just had to manually shorten the filenames till they were under 52 chars. and then remake the play list then open the m3u in the playlist prog linked somehwer here and see if they were compatible now.

Its annoying the h320 can't play playlists with song filename sover 52 because that is the way I received many of them and to go in and manually change every song file name just so you cna make a compaitble playlist for the h320 sucks.

Also there is no path because i would make hte playlist taking tracks from the player while connected to usb and folder opened on pc and then save the playlist int eh same folder. there is no need for a sep playlist dir as hitting A/B on the player brings up all .m3u's even ones that wont play which if i didn't mention if you have even one file name in the playlist that is over 52 chars or otherwise incompatible wiht the h320 the playlist wil not play at all.

Why noone explained this simple fact sooner with allt he ppl wondering why they got the error and playlists didn't work i dont know. and what the point of installing the playlist prog on the player itself is or what the benefit of it besides showing you which files are incompatible i dont know

its supposedly so simple but either it really doenst do much or i coudln't figure out how to best utilize it.
I thought it was able to make compatible playlists and/or edit your files to make them compatible but all i can see it does is open and .m3u file you already made and show you which files are incompat and why.

[Quatre]

Originally Posted by Febs

Did you read the help file?
[/list]It literally doesn't get much easier than that.

If the problem is that your filenames are more than 52 characters long, use a program like Tag and Rename, The Godfather or mp3tag to rename them.

yes i did read the help file

"4. To add songs, drag and drop the music files/folders from PLAYER'S HARD DRIVE into the program's left box."

this did not work for me. left box i think it was just one big box for me.

what will be most usefull to me is the progs you mentioned that I assume automatically shorten your file names for you to some variation of it without having to manually shorten each file name.

[cyberguest]

ha......
sorry, the right box was eliminated, so the left box is that big box...


and... take it easy, it's provided to you for free. the purpose of this tool is to provide a easier way to create playlist, it doesn't do anything winamp or wmp can't do. if you don't find it easy to use, you are welcome to delete it and choose a different prog.

[Febs]

Originally Posted by Quatre

yeah I realized it was the filenames that were over 52 chars that caused it to not work on the h320. all that playlist prog was able to do was shoe me which tracks were over 52 after i made the playlist and loaded it in that prog. so while mildly helpful you can't edit it in the prog or make a compaitble playlist form the prog so i just had to manually shorten the filenames till they were under 52 chars. and then remake the play list then open the m3u in the playlist prog linked somehwer here and see if they were compatible now.

Try one of the three programs that that I previously recommended to you. Or try Tag Database Tool: http://tdt.sourceforge.net.

Its annoying the h320 can't play playlists with song filename sover 52 because that is the way I received many of them and to go in and manually change every song file name just so you cna make a compaitble playlist for the h320 sucks.

Which is exactly why there are programs like the ones that I previously recommended to you.

Also there is no path because i would make hte playlist taking tracks from the player while connected to usb and folder opened on pc and then save the playlist int eh same folder. there is no need for a sep playlist dir as hitting A/B on the player brings up all .m3u's even ones that wont play which if i didn't mention if you have even one file name in the playlist that is over 52 chars or otherwise incompatible wiht the h320 the playlist wil not play at all.

Why noone explained this simple fact sooner with allt he ppl wondering why they got the error and playlists didn't work i dont know. and what the point of installing the playlist prog on the player itself is or what the benefit of it besides showing you which files are incompatible i dont know

The 52 character limitation is a fundamental limitation of your player. If you're going to use either playlists or the database effectively, you need to shorten your filenames. That's just the way that iriver designed it, and while the limitation is silly, it is what it is. The playlist editor does work, but you need to have your files named properly. The key to happiness with the H100 and H300 is having a well-organized file structure, and if you have that, there is no need for your files to have names over 52 characters long (with some rare exceptions).

its supposedly so simple but either it really doenst do much or i coudln't figure out how to best utilize it.

The latter.

yes i did read the help file

"4. To add songs, drag and drop the music files/folders from PLAYER'S HARD DRIVE into the program's left box."

this did not work for me. left box i think it was just one big box for me.

So did you try dragging and dropping files into the big box?

[Quatre]

Originally Posted by Febs

Try one of the three programs that that I previously recommended to you. Or try Tag Database Tool: http://tdt.sourceforge.net.

Which is exactly why there are programs like the ones that I previously recommended to you.

The 52 character limitation is a fundamental limitation of your player. If you're going to use either playlists or the database effectively, you need to shorten your filenames. That's just the way that iriver designed it, and while the limitation is silly, it is what it is. The playlist editor does work, but you need to have your files named properly. The key to happiness with the H100 and H300 is having a well-organized file structure, and if you have that, there is no need for your files to have names over 52 characters long (with some rare exceptions).

The latter.

So did you try dragging and dropping files into the big box?

ok thanks for your responses except the one about me not being able to figure it out. I pretty relatively decent with pc's and figuring out progs so I doubt i was doing it wrong. I did try to drag and drop and nothing would appear. whatever, it was good enough to show me which files were too long and i changed them manually.

I have a good file structure but i just wanted to add working playlists for some of the newer music I added to locate/play it quicker then scrolling through all the music. I have it A-M then N-Z, should maybe make another folder or 2 to break it up and maek for less files per directory as once i have a lot of playlists that will take some time to scroll through those to find the album or group of songs you are looking to play at the time.

[Febs]

Originally Posted by Quatre

ok thanks for your responses except the one about me not being able to figure it out.

That wasn't intended to be a derogatory comment. You made an either/or statement (Either the program doesn't do much or that you hadn't yet figured it out). I believe that the program does what it is intended to do (i.e., make playlists), so I was just trying to say in my own pithy way that you hadn't yet unlocked the usefulness of the program.

I have a good file structure but i just wanted to add working playlists for some of the newer music I added to locate/play it quicker then scrolling through all the music. I have it A-M then N-Z, should maybe make another folder or 2 to break it up and maek for less files per directory as once i have a lot of playlists that will take some time to scroll through those to find the album or group of songs you are looking to play at the time.

What is your file structure? I use \genre\artist\album\ 01 filename.mp3, and I rarely have a filename that ends up being longer than 52 character. On the other hand, it sounds like most of yours are longer the 52.

[Quatre]

Originally Posted by Febs

That wasn't intended to be a derogatory comment. You made an either/or statement (Either the program doesn't do much or that you hadn't yet figured it out). I believe that the program does what it is intended to do (i.e., make playlists), so I was just trying to say in my own pithy way that you hadn't yet unlocked the usefulness of the program.

What is your file structure? I use \genre\artist\album\ 01 filename.mp3, and I rarely have a filename that ends up being longer than 52 character. On the other hand, it sounds like most of yours are longer the 52.

I just mentioned that my file structure was A-M and N-Z dirs which I realized wasn't enough as i figure i need another couple dirs to break up the alphabetical list. I have it broken into genres on my pc but dont feel the need on my h320.

Many of my mp3 file names are longer then 52 chars because that is how they are when i get them I dont make them that way.

I will def have to look into one of those progs that automates shortening many mp3s at a time rather then doing it manually. I may not like the abbreviate version it then makes as I might rename it differently but it'll beat changing them all manually when i want to make an h320 compatible play list.

[Febs]

Tag and Rename is my favorite of the ones that I recommended to you, although you have to pay for it after a free trial period. Let me know how you make out with whatever you choose.

[SuperSayinHi]

hey, i really love this program, a friend of mine downloaded it and it works great! but when i try to open it i get the error: "E:\PlayList1.3. exe is not a valid win32 application". I got this error when i first downloaded it because i didnt have the .net framework so i installed that i still get the error. please help!

[cyberguest]

try downloading the program again (even better, use FireFox)

[SuperSayinHi]

okay thanks ill try that. i already do use firefox!

[garryg]

hello can anybody help me. why cant i download the iriver playlist editior?

[Febs]

Could you give us some more information, please? What happens when you try to download it?

[Foosterino]

Hi

*lurker finally joining*

I love this program its so useful

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[SuperSayinHi]

hey i was wondering is there any other mirrors to download the playlist editor? or just the one on the website?

thanx