H140 using 80gb 3.5" drive

[dobz]

great news that it reads past the 40gb limit, if anybody can link me to a higher capacity HDD that fits into a h140 ill buy it and make pictures and tests.

the_winch what version firmware are you using btw?

if anyone cares i have 652 folders and 4949 songs on my h140 and its got 108mb free (1 album) so i'm really keen to upgrade

[DeadMan]

Sourcing the drives is the problem at present.

[Austin M.]

Originally Posted by Odie

Unfortunately for them, the 40gb drives probably wouldn't fit in the iHP-120 casing, iHP-120 user's best bet would probably be the new 30Gb Toshiba drives.

- Odie

don't they make single plate 40's now? they were just released by toshiba i believe.

:edit:

it appears that somebody else already pointed that out..

i just bought an h320, and I really don't like it. my ihp 120's drive died, it said check hdd connection, so i did, i removed it and reattached it several times and it still wont work, and the wire connections seem fine.. so i think after countless falls the hd finally got fried. i'm ready to plop down 120 or however much it is for a new 20gb or whatever i can get that's single platter and larger than 20, but how would i go about making it work with the player? would the player automatically create the partitions it needs to hold firmware?
can someone who's swapped out drives explain exactly what i need to do here? and can someone also tell me how i can be completely sure if my old 20gig drive is dead. if it isnt maybe the connector's just screwed and all i have to do is some soldering.. thanks

[hypnotic monkey]

I am a H140 owner, but i dont really use the full 40GB. i was thinking, maybe i could replace my 40gig double platter with one of toshibas 30 gig singe platter drives, and stick a MASSIVE capacity battery in

anyother gadgetery you think would be good? might be possible to stick a small headphone amp in? lol

[muesli]

@austin

as quoted above

Sourcing the drives is the problem at present

(see also http://www.misticriver.net/boards/sh...ad.php?t=10813 ) if you find another 20 or 30gb or whatever drive just built it in. if its not formated use the internal format option and if that doesnt help plug it to your computer and format it there. but make sure its NOT a ntfs-partition!

i see an option to test wether your current drive is still vital or not. there are already cases for 1,8" drives on the market (i.e. check eDUMP) just build it in there and see what will happen...

@monkey my teacher at school would have stated "missed the topic" OUR topic is " H140 using 80gb 3.5" drive" and not "i have too much free disc space on my ihp and dunno know what to do with it" would you stick to the topic next time, pleeeease!?

[Austin M.]

internal format option?

well let's say i order this drive sometime soon and install it, what exactly would i have to do to get it working? I really have almost no experience with modding anything, so this would be a nice experience for moi

[the_winch]

The player can only read files from the first fat32 partition on the drive.
I am sure most drives come allready partitioned so it is just a matter of formating the drive.
Unfortunatly microsoft don't want you to format large drives with fat32 so you need to format the drive with win98 or find another way to format. Win 2k and xp can't format drives bigger than 32gb with fat32.

Trying to get the player to format itself (internal format) didn't work with my 80gb drive. It just said format error. Since the firmware only has to deal with two different drives they proberly cut a lot of corners to keep the size of the firmware down and so it won't work with any other drives.

[zezayer]

Win XP wont let you format the drive but external programs like partition magic will allow you to, you can usually get free programs or 30day trials etc.

[MisticMayhem]

well this post seems to be pretty dead, but i hope people who need this find it. www.newegg.com has the 60 1.8" hard drive. heres the dirrect link to the HDD. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145093 its a hitachi not a toshiba but i dont see any reason why that would matter. do u?

[muesli]

easy...it simply doesnt fit. toshiba only mate

check http://www.mix-computer.de/mix/shop/...l2=1%2C8+Zoll& (although its in german it should be easily understandable ( http://babelfish.altavista.com ))

[MisticMayhem]

i see, the two do look quite different. sorry for the confusion. but i think that site has the pics of the 30 and 60 GB drives backwards. the 30 looks twice as thick as the 60 but maybe i'm lookin at the wrong links since after all i only speek english.

[muesli]

the 30gig version is 5mm in height, the 60gig is 8mm. thus the 60gig doesnt fit in h120 and h320

[NPswimdude500]

it's been posted that span.com has 60 gig drives. i don't remember if they had 30 giggers though...

[sal88]

newbie here, the_winch, where does one start with connecting a 3.5 hard drive to the iriver? its a pretty cool idea.

thanks

[larry_llama]

I did the same thing to test a "broken" iriver. Thanks to the winch for the inspiration!

You have to start by getting a female connector that is the same as the 1.8" hdd female connector. You can get it from either a broken 1.8" drive, or a CF card you no longer need, or a pcmcia card that you no longer need. I used a pcmcia card. I opened it and cut the circuit board near the connector, then cut some of the connector off caus eit has more pins than you need.

After that you need to solder a crapload of pins to an existing IDE cable. Look at the pics in the first post to get an idea to how the pins map.

Good luck! I can post pics of my adapter (similar to the winch) if it will help

[sal88]

thanks for the advice! Some pics would be splendid if its not too much trouble. Do the wires have to be soldered exactly the right way?

cheers

[mozetti]

Originally Posted by sal88

thanks for the advice! Some pics would be splendid if its not too much trouble. Do the wires have to be soldered exactly the right way?

cheers

I haven't done anything like this, but I'm pretty positive the wires have to be soldered the correct way.