Is there an MP3Gain equivalent for OGG?

[simonk]

Yeah, the title says it all I guess

[FlameGrilled]

It's called VorbisGain i think...

[TedJ]

Yup, you're after vorbisgain. You can download it here

On a side note for those linux users out there, you can also adjust Replaygain settings from with the "view file info" dialogue on recent versions of xmms.

[simonk]

Thanks guys I downloaded it, but now I'm kinda stuck I'm a bit crap when it comes to command line programs and the like If it doesn't have a nice windows interface I tend to just spend hours staring at it, willing it to work

[TedJ]

Ok Simon, I think there's a GUI for vorbisgain here

Amazing what a 2 second google search can turn up.

[simonk]

Doh! Sorry

[sabaisabai]

At risk of being iggant, I haven't for the life of me been able to get any results from vorbisgain. Vorbisgain seems to operate differently from mp3gain, by only adding 'gain' information in the tags. Any music files I've run through vorbisgain, even though reporting a gain of several dB, still play at the same volume on the iRiver (H340). I can't even get an audible gain on WinAmp, which is definitely meant to be compatible with gain information embedded in tags.

Does anybody have any ideas?

[TedJ]

Sorry sabaisai, I must now confess that I've never actually used vorbisgain... Just did a quick search to help out another MR user. I'll download it and try it out I guess.

I take it that mp3gain DOES work though, which is weird since they both use ReplayGain tagging.

UPDATE: Just downloaded vorbisgain, will try it out tonight!

[simonk]

Yeah, its totally confusing me as well. Hmm.

[nachomc]

mp3gain actually changes the volume in the mp3 frames. There's a level field, or something similar. It uses tags to store the analysis results and the gain applied, but as opposed to vorbisgain, it also aplies it.

So the H340 would have to read and understand replaygain tags for vorbisgain to work for us.

The only workaround I know is using wavegain with WAV's, but that requires re-ripping.

[Jonny]

I REALLY need a volume gain programme for WMA files. I only have a few but they are piercingly loud compared to the rest of my music. Any ideas where I could find one?

[FlameGrilled]

There's none out there, for WMA, Jonny.. at least none any of us lot here came across.

Despite the apparent Mp3/Ogg favouritism here, there are WMA users here too :P

Nope, as i explained elsewhere, you gotta re-rip the originals to wav and use the WAVGAIN software to doctor the WAV's, then make WMA's from.

Alternatively, if you aint got originals, you could convert WMA --> WAV, WAVGAIN them, then recode to WMA again. Not the idea solution, but the only real one if you can't re-rip.

[Jonny]

FG,
What can I use to convert the WMA's to Wav. I seems like DBPowerAmp won't do the trick!

[FlameGrilled]

Are the WMA's, by chance, copy-protected stuff you downloaded..??

[TedJ]

Originally Posted by sabaisabai

...I can't even get an audible gain on WinAmp, which is definitely meant to be compatible with gain information embedded in tags.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Hmm, I've been playing with vorbisgain at home over the last few days and it appears to work fine with recent versions of xmms.

As to your problems in Winamp, please read the following excerpt from the README file:

PLAYER SUPPORT
--------------

As VorbisGain only stores suggested volume changes in the files, the player
application need to read these suggestions and act upon them. As of this
writing, the Vorbis plugin (in_vorbis) 1.2b22 for WinAmp supports this, and
XMMS 1.2.8 will also support it (there is a patch available for earlier
versions of XMMS available; however, it does not support the new format
of the suggestions this version of VorbisGain implements).

Perhaps you need to upgrade the version of in_vorbis you are using. Seems that recent versions of vorbisgain have changed the tag format, which may be confusing Winamp.

[sabaisabai]

Originally Posted by TedJ

Perhaps you need to upgrade the version of in_vorbis you are using. Seems that recent versions of vorbisgain have changed the tag format, which may be confusing Winamp.

On that note, does anybody know whether the iRivers support *any* version of the vorbis gain tags? Perhaps it's possible to downgrade the version of vorbisgain to match the iRiver?

[Jonny]

Are the WMA's, by chance, copy-protected stuff you downloaded..??

Not copy protected, no . But what I meant was that I can't see any option in DBPowerAmp to convert from WMA to wav!

[FlameGrilled]

Well, dbPowerAmp MC uses plugins, and no it does not come with the WMA plugin as standard - it's a free download from the product site.

It will not, however, convert protected WMA's to any other format.

[seadzz]

Vorbis gain is not supported by iRiver players. If you wish to normalize and use ogg vorbis you need to normailze the wav file then encode to ogg. This my friends is the only way.

mp3 gain and vorbis gain operate in different ways this is why vorbis gain is not functional in iRiver products.

Sorry,

sdz

[Jonny]

Thanks FG, that codec did the trick.

[joeb1]

I found this thread in google, I was also wondering how to use mp3gain with WMA or OGG files, there is a way, use foobar 2000, its an MP3 player with a built in gain feature

its actually better than MP3gain even for MP3 files since it doesnt mess up the file information tags and it can do WMA and OGG files

in foobar 2000 right click a file or selection of files > Replaygain >Scan per file track gain or scan selection as album


download foobar here http://static.morbo.org/foobar2000_special.exe

foobar 2000 website http://www.foobar2000.org/

[danimal1968]

Originally Posted by joeb1

I found this thread in google, I was also wondering how to use mp3gain with WMA or OGG files, there is a way, use foobar 2000, its an MP3 player with a built in gain feature

its actually better than MP3gain even for MP3 files since it doesnt mess up the file information tags and it can do WMA and OGG files

in foobar 2000 right click a file or selection of files > Replaygain >Scan per file track gain or scan selection as album


download foobar here http://static.morbo.org/foobar2000_special.exe

foobar 2000 website http://www.foobar2000.org/

That is true but the replaygain feature in foobar2000 just writes the information to file tags and does not actually change the file itself. As such, the player needs to know what to do with it, and Iriver players do not. Only mp3gain makes changes to the file itself.