W10 Info

jasprakmasi · #1 (**permalink**) August 10th, 2007, 12:53 PM

Hey, I found some more information about the W10 on iriver Europe's website. It doesn't say much, but I found out that the W10 supports only Flash Lite 1.1. I know this isn't a big deal, but I thought I would say something.

Here's the link to iriver Europe's page about the W10:
http://www.iriver.eu/multifunction_p...&view=features

**LordMattman** · #2 (**permalink**) August 10th, 2007, 05:31 PM

Dang it looks nice, all I need to know now is pricing.

aceslick911 · #3 (**permalink**) August 14th, 2007, 06:44 PM

whoa it looks a bit like a beveled iphone.. not sure who would need this? How the heck does wifi positioning work unless there are specific gps-compatible wifi routers...

is it a PMP or a Gps? Does it have maps?? SO many questions :\

Haans74 · #4 (**permalink**) August 14th, 2007, 11:26 PM

Wi-Fi positioning has nothing to do with GPS. It's a rather iffy technology that requires a database of wi-fi access points to be created and maintained, noting the location of each access point and thereby being able to triangulate your position. The location of each access point is verified manually "by deploying hundreds of data specialists who scan and locate access points using proprietary scanning vehicles designed to build and maintain the reference database" according to the Skyhook Wireless website. It can pinpoint your location down to a 20m/60ft accuracy which makes it relatively inaccurate, especially when you take into account the fact that APs are upgraded, moved etc. Keeping such a database accurate is a tedious task that requires a lot of work and a lot of funding. However, the accuracy may prove good enough for tourists etc.

It appears WPS only works in the US so far (and possibly London and Barcelona), Skyhook boasting a 70% US coverage (which I find highly unlikely, given the fact that APs are scarce in rural areas - I assume they may have 70% coverage in dense urban areas on a good day).

That said, WPS will be ingenious for positioning in major cities IF Skyhook manages to maintain and expand the database. It will NOT work outside urban areas, but on the other hand it needs no new hardware and will work on any wi-fi enabled device.

http://www.skyhookwireless.com/

EDIT: "WPS currently provides coverage to 70% of the American, Canadian, and Australian populations". So, most major cities.

**LordMattman** · #5 (**permalink**) August 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceslick911

whoa it looks a bit like a beveled iphone

iphone - W10

greenElf · #6 (**permalink**) November 20th, 2007, 12:30 AM

It seems to me like a new type of device - urban player. There's no use to compare it with any gps or gsm thingy. For me it's like comparing palmtop and a cellphone - both may have similar features, but they are different types of tools.

rgraff · #7 (**permalink**) November 21st, 2007, 06:50 PM

Unfortunately appears to not have gapless playback. Also specs don't specify whether battery is user replaceable. Otherwise, nice looking design. Looking forward to reviews.