PMP Firmware Progress

[pmp.breaker]

Originally Posted by Z80

pmp.breaker:
In our pmp dev kit is some makefile missing ,i have adapted it from other bsp and released in this thread erlier ,look at > http://www.misticriver.net/attachmen...2&d=1129888283

dammn i cannot still connect my pm120 to PC it seems that my pmp serial conector doesnt work properly is posible that is destroyed ? i have used cable for my siemens C55 to connect and no output ;o(

Your files are interesting... bur doesn't work. There is a problem in environment PATH and there is no Makefile in fs / :

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root@mythtv:/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev# pwd
/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev
root@mythtv:/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev# ls
arm-uclinux build fs.img.rr info lib linux.rr Makefile man PmpVersion.defs rrload rrload.rr share
bin fs include ingenient linux Make.defs MakeImage_Guide.txt minicom.cap PmpVersionLog rrload.ForUpgrade.rr setenv
root@mythtv:/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev# make clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/rrload'
rm -f *.o *.d *.map rrload rrload.ForUpgrade setup *.out msetup
for export_obj in index.html setup head_dm270.o flash_toshiba.o io_dm270.o osd_null.o sdram.h flash.h io.h ether.h ld.dm270.script ld.dm270.ForUpgrade. script util.h sdram_dsc24.S.exampl e rrload.cmm setup_dm270.cmm; do \
rm -f export/$export_obj; \
done
rm -f export/Makefile
make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/rrload'
make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/fs'
make[1]: *** Pas de règle pour fabriquer la cible « clean ». Arrêt.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/fs'
make: *** [clean] Erreur 2
root@mythtv:/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev# make
make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/rrload'
arm-uclinux-gcc -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__KERNEL__ -Wa,-gstabs,-mapcs-32,-marmv4 -Wa,-mno-fpu -MD -g -Wall -DAUTONEG -DKERN_24 -c -o setup_dm270.o setup_dm270.S
make[1]: arm-uclinux-gcc : commande introuvable
make[1]: *** [setup_dm270.o] Erreur 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/Cadenux/dm270/uclinux-2.4/crossdev/rrload'
make: *** [rrload] Erreur 2
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If you would like to spend some time for this to work from the iriver tarball to PMP firmware file releasing, it would be perfect !

For the serial link, I have posted on this thread the exact parameters of hyperterminal (7 bits chars is very important) based on the shamrockman schema + MAX232 like chip.

thank you,

pmp.breaker

[pmp.breaker]

I finally publish the correspondance between the Cadenux President and me. Some infos are censured (for marketing and confidentiality reasons) and the true names are replaced.

I would like that everybody who use the cadenux bsp and cross dev toolchain read this correspondance because in it, the president of Cadenux exposes his "partnership" offer on which we must work in order to give something back for his toolchain in an open source community mind.

Thx,

pmp.breaker

[Z80]

pmp.breaker:
only make linux & rrload work now .makefile in /fs is posible i will take look at .
It could by great if we have Cadenux-arm7-dm270-uclinux-2.4-bsp.tar.bz2 ...
there is also missing makepmpimg.sh which take firmaware together but this have only iriver ;o( but is posible make one ...
for environment it work for me because i have differnt toolchain for c5471 an i have added some paths and make cross-configure and cross-make scripts ...

my cable is with max chip but dont work,keeping trying ;o(

[pmp.breaker]

Originally Posted by Z80

pmp.breaker:
only make linux & rrload work now .makefile in /fs is posible i will take look at .
It could by great if we have Cadenux-arm7-dm270-uclinux-2.4-bsp.tar.bz2 ...
there is also missing makepmpimg.sh which take firmaware together but this have only iriver ;o( but is posible make one ...
for environment it work for me because i have differnt toolchain for c5471 an i have added some paths and make cross-configure and cross-make scripts ...
my cable is with max chip but dont work,keeping trying ;o(

Ok.
for the environment, Cadenux-arm7-dm270-uclinux-2.4-toolchain-src-108-2.tar.bz2 is not enough ?

for your cable, do you power the MAX232 chip ? have you verified the functionning of this chip with a datasheet ?

[pmp.breaker]

Hi guys,

I publish the 1.03 version of my tarball available on :
http://81.57.198.28/pmp-100/pmp100_team_work/

The kernel is compiling and good running.
Under the work folder, I began to work on a "dev optimized" fs with the more fs available and memory space.

Now I am in vacation and I go away. I will come back around the 03/20/2006. I hope that somebody with free time will work a bit around ?

Sincerely,
pmp.breaker

[Astec]

pmp.breaker or SRM would either of you please be able to clarify what all this means as I keep getting PMs regarding this. Starting to get annoying and to be honest I have been out of the loop for a while so not too sure what is going on.

[ShamrockMan]

Right now, we run our own code on the PMP. The Cadenux President was nice enough to send us the compiler that we needed to make software for the PMP.

Is going to be awhile before the average joe can see any of the results of this, since you need access to the PMP's serial port inorder for any of this to work.

[Neji]

Will this advance acelerate the firmware release???
Has it a estimated date???

[Astec]

Will this advance acelerate the firmware release???

Yes it will accelerate the advancement of the firmware.

Has it a estimated date???

No and dont ask for one. It is like predicting the date of yourself getting a promotion. People developing this do so in their spare time.

[riahc3]

Sounds great.

SRM - What lanaguage will we need to know to write code for the PMP?

[szevvy]

It seems I've found a bug that may potentially turn out to be the way in to the PMP we've been looking for - but don't hold your breath. Basically, through a specifically made file, I can make the PMP crash just by opening the folder it's in via the PMP file browser. Now, this means one of two things:

1. The data is overflowing into other data, and the PMP crashes when it hits said invalid data, or
2. The data is overflowing into instructions, and the PMP crashes when things go horribly, horribly wrong.

More investigation needed - the end result from this kind of thing is that it may, in the distant future, be possible to run custom firmware without having to re-flash the device. Or it could mean that it's a fun way to crap out the PMP.

[jlittle]

ftp://ftp.gpl-devices.org/pub/vendors/iRiver/PMP-1xx/

Just in case you don't.

If you can establish that this does not compile to what is on the PMP I guess you can start by contacting Harald Welte

http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2005/08/index.html

[jeroen]

Originally Posted by pmp.breaker

Hi guys,

I publish the 1.03 version of my tarball available on :
http://81.57.198.28/pmp-100/pmp100_team_work/

I've mirrored those files to http://noc.sixxs.net/archive/pimp/ to make them a bit quicker to access. 50kb/s is no fun trying to d/l things over 100mb. This should make it more accessible for other folks wanting to give it a quick try too.

I hope that somebody with free time will work a bit around ?

This is the main reason I haven't done any further looking or so except for browsing the source and so on, got too much on my hands already. My PiMP is also working reasonably well, except for the biggest annoyance: random is not random and startup-time is a bit on the high side, both I can live with. And as I do actively use it for music/video and carrying stuff around I don't want to brick it either (no time to get a new one either thus the emu would be a great thing to have in either way. When the emu is working, there is no risk involved, and most likely by that time I should have some spare space left to jump into it, but for now, I'll just peek onto the forum now and then.

edit:
I have a pretty silly idea though: add bluetooth dongle + headset + WiFi NIC et tada, one very nice SIP phone *whistle* Of course it should be able to do IPv4+IPv6 then
edit2:
15:12:45 (8.97 MB/s) - `pmp100_dev_kit_v1.0 3.tgz' saved [138313865/138313865]
Should be fast enough for most folks I hope (not local, but a wget over at least a 100km distance

[pmp.breaker]

Originally Posted by jeroen

I've mirrored those files to http://noc.sixxs.net/archive/pimp/ to make them a bit quicker to access. 50kb/s is no fun trying to d/l things over 100mb. This should make it more accessible for other folks wanting to give it a quick try too.

Thanks! Should I warn you if I update my work image ?

This is the main reason I haven't done any further looking or so except for browsing the source and so on, got too much on my hands already. My PiMP is also working reasonably well, except for the biggest annoyance: random is not random and startup-time is a bit on the high side, both I can live with. And as I do actively use it for music/video and carrying stuff around I don't want to brick it either (no time to get a new one either thus the emu would be a great thing to have in either way. When the emu is working, there is no risk involved, and most likely by that time I should have some spare space left to jump into it, but for now, I'll just peek onto the forum now and then.

It is understandable. But we can always beginning to code for the PMP, although we need a serial link which implies opening the PMP and soldering.

edit:
I have a pretty silly idea though: add bluetooth dongle + headset + WiFi NIC et tada, one very nice SIP phone *whistle* Of course it should be able to do IPv4+IPv6 then

lol Many people, many needs, too less coders But a great idea.

edit2:
15:12:45 (8.97 MB/s) - `pmp100_dev_kit_v1.0 3.tgz' saved [138313865/138313865]
Should be fast enough for most folks I hope (not local, but a wget over at least a 100km distance

Yep thx

pmp.breaker

[jeroen]

Originally Posted by pmp.breaker

Thanks! Should I warn you if I update my work image ?

You can do that indeed, then I'll simply fetch it over and people can have it quickly and your dsl line won't slow down to a creeping halt.

Originally Posted by pmp.breaker

lol Many people, many needs, too less coders But a great idea.

When a more-or-less working base image is there (read: one can run custom binaries without flashing and the base functionality is there), or one has the emulator working then coding user-space applications are far from difficult, especially as the factor 'bricking' is out of the loop. Most people don't like to tinker with a 600 EUR toy...

Most likely many applications made ready for the Maemo platform can also be used on the PIMP: http://www.maemo.org/screenshots.html
Though a N770 has a 220-MHz ARM9 OMAP-1710 which has a bit more power afaik. Biggest problem IMHO with that thing is that it only has a 64mb SD card, which is nothing at all compared to a 40Gb PiMP, which makes the PiMP much better for carrying around, especially as long as there is no 24/7 and everywhere WiFi where one has to pay a lot of cash for... Then again a N770 has touch screen which is very handy. (The next model will have a smallish disk I heared rumors of though)...

[wandering_ninja]

Does anyone have the 2.04US firmware? I still have the 1.24???????

[philipino_wallace]

hey wandering ninja go here: http://www.shamrockman.net/tutorials/firmwareguide.php. theres guides there to change the language to english also.

[Lowy]

what do you actualy get by upgrading the firmware?

[UaDogga]

a more stable software version. and text reader.

[andyat11]

when you say more stable.. wat does that include... more movies available to show? extras? games?

Sry didnt read all 7 pages

I have been coming to this site time to time and I thought this would be my first post

[UaDogga]

just safer. less risk of stuffing your player up some how

[cicciosfd]

hi, i'm new on this foru